IGMeanwell
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Kyle said:Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't APX 100 and 400 still available under one of the Arista names through Freestyle?
I thought I heard that announcement back during the summer?
Maybe not ... its discussed in this thread
http://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9658&highlight=Freestyle+AGFA
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
K25, CT18 and APX25.
kinoglass
Established
Panatomic X was the best!
K
Kyle
Guest
IGMeanwell said:I thought I heard that announcement back during the summer?
Maybe not ... its discussed in this thread
http://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9658&highlight=Freestyle+AGFA
Here's another thread about the subject.
http://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28792&highlight=arista+II
Bryce
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I'm thankful I can still get FP4.
Pan F, by the way makes a dandy 25 speed film.
Pan F, by the way makes a dandy 25 speed film.
Northern_Bliss
Member
I really miss Agfa' APX 100 (120). Truly a very fine grain film with beautiful tonal separation. It could be processed in almost any developer yielding superb results.
Here in Toronto at least, it was less expensive than the other slower speed films.
Conversely, Agfa's APX 400 was just awful for grain compared to other 400 speed films.
Here in Toronto at least, it was less expensive than the other slower speed films.
Conversely, Agfa's APX 400 was just awful for grain compared to other 400 speed films.
Michiel Fokkema
Michiel Fokkema
Hi,
I miss the Ektar 25. To reach that quality I have to shoot 6x4.5 now. I wonder what Ektar 25 would have look like in MF, if it even existed. In those days just had my first Leica and was unaware of MF.
Cheers,
Michiel Fokkema
I miss the Ektar 25. To reach that quality I have to shoot 6x4.5 now. I wonder what Ektar 25 would have look like in MF, if it even existed. In those days just had my first Leica and was unaware of MF.
Cheers,
Michiel Fokkema
Michiel Fokkema
Michiel Fokkema
Hi,
I miss the Ektar 25. To reach that quality I have to shoot 6x4.5 now. I wonder what Ektar 25 would have look like in MF, if it even existed. In those days just had my first Leica and was unaware of MF.
Cheers,
Michiel Fokkema
I miss the Ektar 25. To reach that quality I have to shoot 6x4.5 now. I wonder what Ektar 25 would have look like in MF, if it even existed. In those days just had my first Leica and was unaware of MF.
Cheers,
Michiel Fokkema
x-ray
Veteran
Harry Lime said:Out of curiosity, what is it that you don't like about the current Tri-X, compared to the original?
I have some vintage 1950's Tri-X negs that my dad gave me and the grain is considerably larger than in the current incarnation, but the grain in new version still has that 'salt and pepper' look and distinctive shape. One thing that I did notice about the old Tri-X was the huge silvercontent. It almost looks like you could peel the emulsion off of the backing and hold a little silver image in your hand.
Harry:
I used Tri-X for over thirty years and since 1968 I processed in Rodinal 1:100 with a 10% sodium sulfite solution added and got the most fantastic tonality and and finest grain that I've been unable to duplicate with any other film. It had a very long tonal scale and finer grain than 100 ISO films. Highlights were open and shadows were full rated at 400. The new Tri-x falls flat on it's face and just won't work with my old combo. I have to rate the new one at 250 and there's nothing special about the grain or tonality.
I started shooting Delta 100 and 400 when it came out after doing trade trial testing for Ilford. I love both but recently while printing some of my vintage negs I realised how much more grain the Delta 400 has than the old Tri-X in my modified developer. Delta 400 is still a fantastic film but I'm now trying Fuji Neopan 400 and liking what I see but it's still not the same as the old Tri-X. If Kodak would bring it back I would go back to it in a heart beat.
ZivcoPhoto
Well-known
Maybe off this thread but (X Ray) what is your favorite developer and times for APX 400 and Neopan 400? I also am a very long time TRI-X user (since mid '60s) and I'm trying these two films to see how well they compare.
Peter A (NYC)
Established
Fuji NPH II
Fotch
Man with a RF Camera
Panatomic X and old Tri-X !
LeicaTom
Watch that step!
Agfa 25 Blk N Wht
and
Kodachrome 25 Slide
Crazy I just looked in my freezer and I have some very old rolls of Kodachrome 64 left (and some old Tri-X) dammm that stuff is crazy old, in aluminum Leica containers
I have`nt shot Kodachrome since Germany and there we had to send it to Switerland to be developed and mounted, because the Stuttgart lab had closed
(this was like 1992 or 93) do they still mount the stuff for you?
I have film exposed and frozen that`s like 5+ years old, never changed temp, always frozen and all of them are marked, have to get off my butt and develop some of them - some of the work`s shot on camera`s I sold years ago!
I remember I had film back in Germany (Kodak EPR-64) that was like 8 years over the exp. date and it was still shooting killer CROSS-PROCESSING work......it`s about time I shoot a roll through my Leica IIIC
and
Kodachrome 25 Slide
Crazy I just looked in my freezer and I have some very old rolls of Kodachrome 64 left (and some old Tri-X) dammm that stuff is crazy old, in aluminum Leica containers
I have`nt shot Kodachrome since Germany and there we had to send it to Switerland to be developed and mounted, because the Stuttgart lab had closed
(this was like 1992 or 93) do they still mount the stuff for you?
I have film exposed and frozen that`s like 5+ years old, never changed temp, always frozen and all of them are marked, have to get off my butt and develop some of them - some of the work`s shot on camera`s I sold years ago!
I remember I had film back in Germany (Kodak EPR-64) that was like 8 years over the exp. date and it was still shooting killer CROSS-PROCESSING work......it`s about time I shoot a roll through my Leica IIIC
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mhv
Registered User
RayPA said:Yes. Even though I have a modest supply in the refrigerator, and I *THINK* it can still be had from an online somewhere (ebay?), when it's finally gone, I will miss APX 100, very very much.![]()
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Freestyle, in stock, at a normal price:
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?cat_id=&pid=1000002438
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?cat_id=&pid=1000002437
It's the 35mm film, cut in both 135 and 120 sizes and repackaged under a different name by MACO. But it's the real deal, the APX 100 emulsion. I bought some, exposed it, developed and printed, and that's the film I missed for so long...
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mhv
Registered User
xayraa33 said:when the supply runs out, I hope some other film manufacturer picks up the rights to make APX 100, it is one nice black and white film.
Yep, it's our friends at FotoIMPEX:
http://www.fotolaborforum.eu/index.php?showtopic=1772
Sorry for the German, here's an actual quote from Mirko, the business owner:
http://www.apug.org/forums/forum172/39066-resurrection-some-former-agfa-products.html#post466005
http://www.apug.org/forums/forum172/40721-resurrection-mcc-progressing-2.html#post490297
First, the papers. Next the films. APX 400. Then APX 100. And yes, EVEN APX 25 !
You can be a tester for the new MCC coating that's coming up by sending an email to Mirko.
TheHub
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wlewisiii said:Edit: though it'll be an even sadder day if Fuji kills Reala. I have far more hope for it than for any Kodak product, though, if for no other reason than Fuji's sense of Giri to it's film customers.
From what I've heard, the CEO of FujiFilm here likes film himself, so there probably isn't any immediate danger.
Just the other day at a place downtown I saw loads of Velvia 50 in the cooler. Is there such a difference between 100 & 50? (I've only used Velvia 100 once, in 35mm format.)
The attached photo is a flyer for the re-release of Velvia 50. It says (roughly) "Once more the deep emotion (or exitement) of Velvia."
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WoolenMammoth
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omg, techpan and hie.
I hear rodinal is available again, so all is not bad...
I hear rodinal is available again, so all is not bad...
x-ray
Veteran
ZivcoPhoto said:Maybe off this thread but (X Ray) what is your favorite developer and times for APX 400 and Neopan 400? I also am a very long time TRI-X user (since mid '60s) and I'm trying these two films to see how well they compare.
It's been ten or so years since shooting Agfa so I can't remember what i was using. It was either HC110 Dil. B or Rodinal. These are my standard developers and have been for years. I shot thousands of rolls in 120 for a fashion client and used the original 100 before that. I never liked Plus-X and Agfa had the look I wanted. The earlier version had a low red sensativity and caused harsher tones in male skin but that was easily taken care of with a K2 filter. I'e an excellent film but I switched to Delta 100 after doing testing for Ilford. I do like the Ilford products and have shot many thousands of rolls and sheets.
I shoot Neopan at the rated 400 and process per instruction sheet with Ilford HC / HC110 dilution B. The negs are dead on the way I like them and print using the Ilford MG head. They print very well generally on a #2 or 2-1/2 on Ilford warmtone FB MG. The skin tones are very creamy and clean which I like and find this even more so with Acros 100. Most of my experience with Neopan is in 120 but the 35mm looks excellent too. I have a shipment of 120 and a half dozen more rolls of 35mm coming today. I want to evaluate the 35mm a little more but think it's going to look very good. Ten or so years ago I was shooting a good bit of neopan 400 and 1600 but had problems with air bubbles sticking to the film. I would darn near destroy a stainless tank trying to get the air off the film but it continued to stick and cause problems. Neopan was the only film I was having this problem with so I concluded that it was a problem with the neopan. I didn't use it untill recently and have had no problems with it. I guess it must have been a problem with coating of the film or something. I like the look and will switch over completely if it proves to be as good as I'm thinking it is.
As good as these films are I still haven't found anything to compare with my old combo of modified Rodinal and original TX.
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