What glue for red dot?

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What do you think is a good glue to attach the plastic red dot to an M lens? I‘ve got two compound epoxy lying around and would like to fix that dot permanently. Once I got lucky, lost and found it nearby a lake and don’t want to risk losing it again.
 
Send an email to Leica, Youxin Ye, or DAG. I’m sure they’ll be happy to tell you what they use.
 
Lots of ideas and suggestions here: (Disregard the wrong red dot image :\)

Looks like a flexible (elastic) adhesive - like E6000 - is the recommendation.
 
Some people cover up the red dot while others use glue to get the red dot back on the lens!
 
Contact cement is a pretty strong adhesive, if you apply it to both surfaces.
That's what I'd use if I was in such a situation. Just a bit on each surface and let it set for a bit (as per instructions) before attaching the dot.

A CA-type adhesive would be too prone to being brittle in cold weather.
 
Or a pinhead but it is not flat on one side so modification is required.
Yes I remember an instructional reference to a DIY version of this:

Red dots on Leica lenses?​


These are small red hemispheres on Leica lens barrels to help get proper alignment when lens-mounting.


Sometimes these dots fall off. Sometimes they're MIA when you buy a second hand lens. What can you do?…


  1. Contact your Leica spare parts department and buy a replacement
    (@ $10 each in Australia!)
  2. Andy Piperrecommended the following DIY tip in July 2006:
    You can also make your own (a tip I got from the old forum). Go to a map store and buy a box of map pins. These have spherical coloured plastic heads the same radius as the Leica lens dots (within .5mm), and red is a basic color available. Cut the red spherical head in half with a hobby knife, and super-glue one of the halves onto the lens.

Here's an Amazon link for the .5mm pins. Heck, make many colored ones. Not sure how easy it is to cut through one cleanly in-half though. Maybe sand it down... :)

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I have successfully attached red dots to Leica lenses (and a blue dot on a Zeiss ZM lens) with super glue. After some 7 years they are still all in place.
For the Leica logo red dot on the M6 I used 3M double sided tape (the thinnest one), perfect to detach easily if I ever need to vertical align the RF patch.
 
I am always very reluctant to use cyanoacrylate glue (C.A. glue, super glue) anywhere near lenses. Most of them outgas furiously for the first 24-48 hours and if any of that gaseous compound ends up on glass surfaces they can visibly fog them and is difficult, if not impossible to remove without further damage (e.g. to the coatings). It does not always happen but if it does then its a problem. You can get low outgassing CA glue, but it seems hard to find and only available from specialist providers. The other issue with C.A. glue is that unless you use a highly viscous form of C.A. glue (and this CAN be found - though is somewhat harder to find than the normal runny stuff) normal garden variety C.A. glue is so damn runny and hard to control it almost inevitably ends up going where you do not want it. And if you are really clumsy, it may even end up inside the lens.

If you do it, do it with full knowledge of the risks and use extreme care and at least tape a bundled up tissue over the front lens element. For these reasons, for any lens related application, I prefer a good quality epoxy. Even here be aware that quick set epoxy is much weaker than the slower curing "super strength" ones that take 24 hours to cure. With an application like this where the surface area of the bonded surface is tiny I would use the super strength slow setting one to avoid future problems. But that in turn raises another issue - how to set up some kind of jig to hold the dot in place till curing is advanced enough to no longer need it. A small piece of tape over the dot, holding it in situ may work.

Many years ago I had a dot fall off my Summicron 35mm f2 version 3 (dammit) and not because it was ever dropped, bumped or otherwise abused. I did not find mine but after some thought, I realized that some dress making pins have small spherical plastic heads on them in various colors and can be found cheaply at stores that cater to the trade. I chose a red one, then using a Dremel tool, cut the small round head in half, smoothed the cut flat base by rubbing it on fine wet and dry emery paper and glued that on instead. It looked and performed identically. To glue it I am pretty sure I used the epoxy technique mentioned above. Five years later I sold the lens - the dot was still securely attached and looking every bit like the original. A little innovation and inventiveness goes a long way sometimes!
 
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