What happened to my "girls in camera shirts thread"...it's gone/deleted/vanished

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apconan said:
White Knight saves woman of the world from sexist and offensive RFF members.
Said members jailed for hate crimes.
White Knight awarded 99 virgins.
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in my opinion the thread and the comments objectified the women in the pictures. if you want to look at that kind of stuff, the internet is full of it. why does it have to be here too?

bob
 
filmfan said:
I wish I had seen the original thread after all this hype.
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how can you comment on any of this if you never even saw what we're talking about? if you don't know any of the facts, you don't have any business criticizing the thread being removed.


bob
 
bob338 said:
how can you comment on any of this if you never even saw what we're talking about? if you don't know any of the facts, you don't have any business criticizing the thread being removed.


bob
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You are right. I retract my statements. I apologize. Wrong time/place.
 
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Chriscrawfordphoto said:
No one mentioned Christianity or any other religion. Its possible to be offended by the comments people made in the shirt thread without being a Christian or any other kind of religious believer.
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I understand what you're saying, but conservative views on sex and male/female interaction and attraction stem from periods of christianity which defiled natural attraction between gender and sex.

There's this wonderful thing that was graced upon mankind (and womankind - gotta be politically correct about it :cool:) that's called choice. When a person comes into contact be it visual or auditory etc with something that he finds offensive or personally vulgar, it is entirely possible to remove himself from the situation. For example, on an internet forum, he may close the page he finds offensive and not visit it again. This removes the problem, insures he doesn't encounter that same problem again, and still allows those who enjoy the said content to continue enjoying it.

Choice for the win.
 
Oh no, I think you may have just officially changed the subject.
I was just trying to lighten the mood. I guess it was not done very well. In fact, I think I succeeded in doing the opposite.
Once again, I apologize.
 
bob338 said:
in my opinion the thread and the comments objectified the women in the pictures. if you want to look at that kind of stuff, the internet is full of it. why does it have to be here too?

bob
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would you be equally as offended if I posted a thread of male models in camera shirts? would you still post that it "objectifies" the men in the pictures? If not, THAT is the true face of sexism.
 
This is retarded. I saw the thread. There were nice pics and people were commenting more the cameras on the shirts than the girls. If some ass said something wrong, just delete its comment, not the whole thread...
 
"The problem with the thread was the sexist attitudes about the pics."

Thanks Steven for clarifying that.....I think I might of missed something that was posted while I was sleeping........


"The original post was just photos of Thai girls in t-shirts with cameras on the shirts"

with all due respect Chris, that's not really true...I can recall two posts that had females wearing camera shirts that I did not post...I think mfogiel and craigc were the other posters...and I am pretty sure the girls weren't Thai.

"as there was no men in camera T-shirts to counterbalance, nor would there ever be"

there was a photo of a male in the thread, that male was me.....

anyways, like I said, I didn't get a chance to see any of the comments that were posted so I have no idea what happened.......

cheers, michael
 
I saw the thread and was pretty neutral about the whole thing.
Frankly I'm surprised at the developments.

What's done is done. Nothing we can do about it now.
I guess we should move on to the next sexist thread, eh?
 
michaelbialecki said:
"The problem with the thread was the sexist attitudes about the pics."

Thanks Steven for clarifying that.....I think I might of missed something that was posted while I was sleeping........


"The original post was just photos of Thai girls in t-shirts with cameras on the shirts"

with all due respect Chris, that's not really true...I can recall two posts that had females wearing camera shirts that I did not post...I think mfogiel and craigc were the other posters...and I am pretty sure the girls weren't Thai.

"as there was no men in camera T-shirts to counterbalance, nor would there ever be"

there was a photo of a male in the thread, that male was me.....

anyways, like I said, I didn't get a chance to see any of the comments that were posted so I have no idea what happened.......

cheers, michael
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That's why I said THE ORIGINAL POST. That means your post that began the thread. I wasn't offended by your photos, I don't think anyone else was either. It was the other guys sitting at the edge of the stage waving dollar bills in the air (figuratively speaking) that was the problem to many of us.
 
That "show me your leica" thread is looking pretty offensive to me right about now.... I don't see any zeiss's or voigtlanders posted in there.

Gentlemen, to your pitchforks!
 
CameraQuest said:
its interesting how few people seem to bother to read the RFF forums rules and FAQ

Rule No. 4 - No "Offensive" Posts, Links or Images
4) You will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, racist, sexist, discriminatory, or otherwise violative of any local or international laws. This includes links in your signature, profile, bookmarks as well as posted images, photos and avatars. Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not.

The problem with the thread was the sexist attitudes about the pics.

That is not what RFF is about.

Stephen
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Totally appreciate that Stephen. And thanks for commenting.
I just wish it was the offending member comments that were deleted - rather than the work of one of our photographers - assuming that work itself wasn't offensive.
 
teo said:
This is retarded. I saw the thread. There were nice pics and people were commenting more the cameras on the shirts than the girls. If some ass said something wrong, just delete its comment, not the whole thread...
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Uh oh, now the 'R' word appears. Who is going to be offended by that? This thread should be deleted! ;)
 
fdigital said:
I understand what you're saying, but conservative views on sex and male/female interaction and attraction stem from periods of christianity which defiled natural attraction between gender and sex.

There's this wonderful thing that was graced upon mankind (and womankind - gotta be politically correct about it :cool:) that's called choice. When a person comes into contact be it visual or auditory etc with something that he finds offensive or personally vulgar, it is entirely possible to remove himself from the situation. For example, on an internet forum, he may close the page he finds offensive and not visit it again. This removes the problem, insures he doesn't encounter that same problem again, and still allows those who enjoy the said content to continue enjoying it.

Choice for the win.
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I'm so far to the left that I think Trotsky was too conservative. This has nothing to do with conservatism or religion. I wasn't offended by the original posters photos, which was nicely done and tasteful. It was the other posts that reminded me of an online equivalent of a bunch of drunken horndogs sitting by the stage in a topless bar. Problem was, this isn't a topless bar, its a photography forum. The issue was respect for our fellow human beings.
 
bob338 said:
in my opinion the thread and the comments objectified the women in the pictures. if you want to look at that kind of stuff, the internet is full of it. why does it have to be here too?

bob
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No offense Bob. But this seems an unwise path on a forum that thrives on the creativity and vision of its photographers. I'm sure we've all come across stuff here that we'd rather not see. But if everyone got to exclude what they didn't like, there wouldn't be much here to look at.
 
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