ok, I gotta throw in my two cents. This is too much fun. I own both the XA and the Rollei 35 and love both. Each has it's own endearing personality, and it's own shortcomings. The XA is prone to electrical faults, and is not fully manual. This last issue was part of the original requirement. The Rollei is not as quite as pocketable and although it has a very useable depth of field scale it lacks a rangefinder. Again, this last was part of the original requirements. Retinas come in various configurations and I've managed to own most varieties. The earlier Retina II cameras I find too hard to hold securely. You almost have to hold it by the fold out door, and I for one can't seem to hold it steady. The later IIc is a beautiful user but it's as big as a screw mount Leica. You might as well get the Leica and have a better range of lenses. (Or get a Fed like I did.) There's also the Olympus RC which gives unmetered manual and rangefinder focusing in a tiny package. Or the Ricoh 500g (AKA Sears 35rf) which gives fully metered manual in an only slightly larger package. Both the Olympus and the Ricoh have sharp lenses. These are the only the ones I can give personal testimony on, but I've come to the conclusion that there's no one perfect pocket rangefinder. Not for me anyway.