bob cole
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this may not be the place to ask but does anyone here know where I can buy 8mm film for an old Bolex H8 movie camera? Not super 8...just plain 8mm...thanks in advance...bob cole
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Funny. I just bought a Bolex D8La - so recently that I'm still waiting for it to arrive. Here are some sites you may want to check out;
LOT of 8mm information/links: LINK1
There are links to that site to a number of sources for 8mm film.
Being in SF I also have the option to buy at: Action Camera
I've exhanged a few emails with someone much more knowledgeable than me when it comes to 8mm and in case any of it is useful here's part of the information I received:
"I dug into some folders and came up with some old but maybe still reliable information:
The lab in Minneapolis is Film & Video Services. (612) 789-8622.
They didn't have a website a few years ago but may have one now. They must still be around, because they're listed at this 2007 film festival site:
http://www.njfilmfest.com/super8.html The guy I dealt with there is Gary Rassmussen, and his email was RRASMUS316@aol.com
Also try Yale Film & Video in Los Angeles. My old 2000 price list from them states $12.00 for developing B&W or color reversal regular 8 – that would be for 25' of film. Regular 8 is actually 16mm wide. You shoot it spooling through the camera, then flip it over and shoot it again. The lab develops the roll, then slits it down the middle and splices the two pieces together, to make a total of 50' of 8mm film. There are 80 frames per foot, so that's 4000 frames. At 24 frames/second, that's 2.75 minutes, but at the more normal 16-18 frames/second, that's 3.7 to 4 minutes. I shoot windup cameras at 20 fps, and transfer to video at 20fps, so as to get flickerless video transfers, but now I'm talking a further level of complexity that you can learn about more by googling 8mm video transfers.
Yale sells (or sold) film for $15-20 a roll. Gary R's price list shows $18 for B&W film with processing. I'm sure it's higher now. He also shows $25 for color film with processing. Gary also sells supplies like leader, reels, splicing tape, etc. He's a good guy.
I had several projectors at one point, and to do video transfers, you need one with a tunable speed control. Most set the speed at fixed speeds, like 12 fps, 18 fps, 24 fps. But if you project at precisely 20 fps, you can aim a video camera at the screen and record a flickerless image.
The best projector I ever had was a Bolex M8. A beautiful piece of art deco Swiss design. http://cgi.ebay.com/Bolex-M8-8mm-CI...ryZ11722QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The only drawback to this model is that it doesn't have a reverse setting. You have to run the film all the way through, then rewind directly from reel to reel. The lens in these is superb.
The projector that I actually use though is a Honeywell. http://cgi.ebay.com/Honeywell-Elmo-...ryZ15255QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
These run either regular 8 or super 8, go in forward or reverse, and are made very well for a Japanese projector of their day. The best Japanese models for that matter.
You'll only want to buy a projector within a decent mailing distance, though, as they're heavy beasts.
Maybe you won't ever do much filming, but a nice '50s 8mm camera with a 3-lens turret is an absolute classic piece of shelf decoration. The little Bolexes are real works of art, and the Movikon just blows people's minds when they see the film twisting from spool to movement to spool."
LOT of 8mm information/links: LINK1
There are links to that site to a number of sources for 8mm film.
Being in SF I also have the option to buy at: Action Camera
I've exhanged a few emails with someone much more knowledgeable than me when it comes to 8mm and in case any of it is useful here's part of the information I received:
"I dug into some folders and came up with some old but maybe still reliable information:
The lab in Minneapolis is Film & Video Services. (612) 789-8622.
They didn't have a website a few years ago but may have one now. They must still be around, because they're listed at this 2007 film festival site:
http://www.njfilmfest.com/super8.html The guy I dealt with there is Gary Rassmussen, and his email was RRASMUS316@aol.com
Also try Yale Film & Video in Los Angeles. My old 2000 price list from them states $12.00 for developing B&W or color reversal regular 8 – that would be for 25' of film. Regular 8 is actually 16mm wide. You shoot it spooling through the camera, then flip it over and shoot it again. The lab develops the roll, then slits it down the middle and splices the two pieces together, to make a total of 50' of 8mm film. There are 80 frames per foot, so that's 4000 frames. At 24 frames/second, that's 2.75 minutes, but at the more normal 16-18 frames/second, that's 3.7 to 4 minutes. I shoot windup cameras at 20 fps, and transfer to video at 20fps, so as to get flickerless video transfers, but now I'm talking a further level of complexity that you can learn about more by googling 8mm video transfers.
Yale sells (or sold) film for $15-20 a roll. Gary R's price list shows $18 for B&W film with processing. I'm sure it's higher now. He also shows $25 for color film with processing. Gary also sells supplies like leader, reels, splicing tape, etc. He's a good guy.
I had several projectors at one point, and to do video transfers, you need one with a tunable speed control. Most set the speed at fixed speeds, like 12 fps, 18 fps, 24 fps. But if you project at precisely 20 fps, you can aim a video camera at the screen and record a flickerless image.
The best projector I ever had was a Bolex M8. A beautiful piece of art deco Swiss design. http://cgi.ebay.com/Bolex-M8-8mm-CI...ryZ11722QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The only drawback to this model is that it doesn't have a reverse setting. You have to run the film all the way through, then rewind directly from reel to reel. The lens in these is superb.
The projector that I actually use though is a Honeywell. http://cgi.ebay.com/Honeywell-Elmo-...ryZ15255QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
These run either regular 8 or super 8, go in forward or reverse, and are made very well for a Japanese projector of their day. The best Japanese models for that matter.
You'll only want to buy a projector within a decent mailing distance, though, as they're heavy beasts.
Maybe you won't ever do much filming, but a nice '50s 8mm camera with a 3-lens turret is an absolute classic piece of shelf decoration. The little Bolexes are real works of art, and the Movikon just blows people's minds when they see the film twisting from spool to movement to spool."
bob cole
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where to by 8mm film
where to by 8mm film
Rich, I really appreciate all the info on regular 8mm film...I'm going to clean up this beast and see what it can do...many thanks...bob
where to by 8mm film
Rich, I really appreciate all the info on regular 8mm film...I'm going to clean up this beast and see what it can do...many thanks...bob
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