faris
Well-known
Good evening..
I have the lux asph and the cron asph. the lux suffers from focus issues on
my M8. has been to solms, but no luck. besides it is big on a rf.
The cron asph is a tad slow ( I do need f/1.4 ) for project where quick and accurate focussing along with fast speed is needed. the cron is perfect for
daylight and size and performance wise for me on the M8.
Are there any other options/recommendations you folks could pass on ?
Thank you.
I have the lux asph and the cron asph. the lux suffers from focus issues on
my M8. has been to solms, but no luck. besides it is big on a rf.
The cron asph is a tad slow ( I do need f/1.4 ) for project where quick and accurate focussing along with fast speed is needed. the cron is perfect for
daylight and size and performance wise for me on the M8.
Are there any other options/recommendations you folks could pass on ?
Thank you.
jasperamsterdam
Established
What kind of answer are you looking for?
What kind of answer are you looking for?
Do you wanna hear about a secret leica alternative @35mm and 1.4? Or you never heard about the only three other options and their strenghts and weaknesses, the cv 35mm 1.2 and 1.4 and the glowingly soft 1.4 pre asph. There around a thousant threads here ' bout those...
Besides if you already consider the lux too large there
are only two options the nokton 1.4 and the
lux pre-asph.. So either weird bokeh or soft&glow..
What kind of answer are you looking for?
Do you wanna hear about a secret leica alternative @35mm and 1.4? Or you never heard about the only three other options and their strenghts and weaknesses, the cv 35mm 1.2 and 1.4 and the glowingly soft 1.4 pre asph. There around a thousant threads here ' bout those...
Besides if you already consider the lux too large there
are only two options the nokton 1.4 and the
lux pre-asph.. So either weird bokeh or soft&glow..
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lewis44
Well-known
My Favorite is the CV 35 f1.2 Nokton on the M8. Fast, reasonably priced and excellent images. A little large, but you get used to it. I use it on my M2 as well and don't mind the size.
faris
Well-known
Jasper, thanks. reidreviews ( i put much value there ) is not too keen on
the cv 35/1.4 sc/mc because of focus shifts. I have read about the others
but not much on a digital..film yes.
Thanks.
the cv 35/1.4 sc/mc because of focus shifts. I have read about the others
but not much on a digital..film yes.
Thanks.
Hear about a secret leica alternative @35mm and 1.4 or you never heard about the only three other options and their strenghts and weaknesses, the cv 35mm 1.2 and 1.4 and the glowingly soft 1.4 pre asph. There around a thousant threads here ' bout those...
faris
Well-known
Randy, appreciate your help. how would you compare sizewise the cv 35/1.2 with other alternatives.
Regards.
Regards.
My Favorite is the CV 35 f1.2 Nokton on the M8. Fast, reasonably priced and excellent images. A little large, but you get used to it. I use it on my M2 as well and don't mind the size.
lewis44
Well-known
Here is the 35 Nokton on the M2 along with my 50 Summilux



aizan
Veteran
noise ninja the summicron asph one stop.
faris
Well-known
Randy, can't thank you enough. Really helpful and appreciate the trouble
you went thru to get the pics.
Regards.
you went thru to get the pics.
Regards.
faris
Well-known
Thanks Aizan. Excellent suggestion. randy has just posted the comparison
pics. Time to mull it over.
take care.
pics. Time to mull it over.
take care.
noise ninja the summicron asph one stop.
oldoc
oldoc
Actually, the Konica Hexanon would be an additional option.
Krosya has one and his threads are full of examples.It's not cheap, but you might think about that nice piece, too.
Krosya has one and his threads are full of examples.It's not cheap, but you might think about that nice piece, too.
noimmunity
scratch my niche
the only fast (i.e., opens above f/2) modern 35 that doesn't exhibit focus shift on the M8 would be the CV 35/1.2
35mmdelux
Veni, vidi, vici
The answer is obviously the Leica 35/1.4 pre-asph. Fast, super compact, and got some character too.
noimmunity
scratch my niche
The answer is obviously the Leica 35/1.4 pre-asph. Fast, super compact, and got some character too.
I'd imagine that the pre-asph plus a UV/IR filter would make a heckuva flare machine, oops, I mean glow machine
dof
Fiat Lux
My favorite 35 for the M8 is the 28mm Summicron!
Garfink
Antfarm Photography
I agree with JSU totally, my setup for 35mm lens on both the M8, R-D1s and M9 is a 'cron 35/2 (IV) and CV 35/1.2. I also have a CV 35/1.7 ultron lying around but I rarely use it.
The 'cron 35/2 (IV) has a classic look of its own, hard to define but in terms of technical qualities, it is sharp and colors seem saturated.
The CV 35/1.2 has that fast lens magic, its cheapish and large. But well worth it.
I don't like the bokeh on the CV 35/1.4, but it is very small and the bokeh though harsh on some objects, seem suited to certain other objects (like christmas trees)
I have never had focus shift problems on the above lenses.
Oddly, the grass is always greener over the fence, and I would love to own a 'lux 35/1.4, I don't think it would replace my 'cron IV but it may challenge the CV35/1.2. (but if it does focus shift, I don't know....)
The 'cron 35/2 (IV) has a classic look of its own, hard to define but in terms of technical qualities, it is sharp and colors seem saturated.
The CV 35/1.2 has that fast lens magic, its cheapish and large. But well worth it.
I don't like the bokeh on the CV 35/1.4, but it is very small and the bokeh though harsh on some objects, seem suited to certain other objects (like christmas trees)
I have never had focus shift problems on the above lenses.
Oddly, the grass is always greener over the fence, and I would love to own a 'lux 35/1.4, I don't think it would replace my 'cron IV but it may challenge the CV35/1.2. (but if it does focus shift, I don't know....)
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Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I really like my 1.2 Nokton on my M8 and it's now almost the only lens I use on the camera .... BUT the focus is not happy at short distances. At minimum distance or close to, it back focuses noticably ... I've learned to compensate reasonably accurately bit it's annoying none the less!
Bobfrance
Over Exposed
I recently checked out all the various options in my quest for a fast/small 35mm lens.
I found the Nokton 1.2 too big and disliked the OOF rendering of the Nokton 1.4. I actually really quite liked the old Canon LTM 35/1.5 - it was fairly soft, but rendered colours very nicely and had a good overall look. Its negative points were fiddly/dated ergonomics and lack of modern coating which I suspect would lead to flaring in some circumstances.
Eventually I made the mistake of trying a 35 Lux ASPH and I was hooked. Despite the cost I had to have it as nothing even came close. I loved its creamy rendering and its size and speed were an excellent bonus.
I know the grass is always greener on the other side, but take another look at your Lux. It really is a superb lens.
As for back focus issues, whilst not an optics expert, I have come to notice most fast/wide lenses exhibit this. It seems Leica deliberately made the 35 Lux pin sharp at f1.4 after which it lost it a little until f8 when it became razor sharp again. I'm under the impression that this is a compromise brought about by technical necessity and I'm happy with that. Besides I'm yet to develop the ability to accurately focus enough to warrant worrying or excessive pixel-peeping.
I hear a rumour that Zeiss may be releasing a 35mm fast lens with a floating rear element. It may not have back focus issues, but if they do I suspect it will make the Summilux look cheap.
Anyway, after buying the lens I walked out of the shop and took this,
Give your 'Lux another chance. I haven't taken mine off the camera yet.
I found the Nokton 1.2 too big and disliked the OOF rendering of the Nokton 1.4. I actually really quite liked the old Canon LTM 35/1.5 - it was fairly soft, but rendered colours very nicely and had a good overall look. Its negative points were fiddly/dated ergonomics and lack of modern coating which I suspect would lead to flaring in some circumstances.
Eventually I made the mistake of trying a 35 Lux ASPH and I was hooked. Despite the cost I had to have it as nothing even came close. I loved its creamy rendering and its size and speed were an excellent bonus.
I know the grass is always greener on the other side, but take another look at your Lux. It really is a superb lens.
As for back focus issues, whilst not an optics expert, I have come to notice most fast/wide lenses exhibit this. It seems Leica deliberately made the 35 Lux pin sharp at f1.4 after which it lost it a little until f8 when it became razor sharp again. I'm under the impression that this is a compromise brought about by technical necessity and I'm happy with that. Besides I'm yet to develop the ability to accurately focus enough to warrant worrying or excessive pixel-peeping.
I hear a rumour that Zeiss may be releasing a 35mm fast lens with a floating rear element. It may not have back focus issues, but if they do I suspect it will make the Summilux look cheap.
Anyway, after buying the lens I walked out of the shop and took this,

Give your 'Lux another chance. I haven't taken mine off the camera yet.
noimmunity
scratch my niche
I know the grass is always greener on the other side, but take another look at your Lux. It really is a superb lens.
When the glass is always greener on the other side, you need to see a doctor about a GAS problem!
faris
Well-known
Folks, once again I am reminded why I love this forum. You have come thru for me again. It gets a bit confusing sometimes, with all the different but
equally valid suggestions. But that is what one would look for and appreciate to form an informed judgement. The actual experiences of various people is what one gains the knowledge from. For this I cannot
thank you all enough.
For the time being ( till some funds are gathered from some sales ), I shall
give my lux another try...but the heart is not in it. do I make sense?
My best regards and appreciation to one and all.
equally valid suggestions. But that is what one would look for and appreciate to form an informed judgement. The actual experiences of various people is what one gains the knowledge from. For this I cannot
thank you all enough.
For the time being ( till some funds are gathered from some sales ), I shall
give my lux another try...but the heart is not in it. do I make sense?
My best regards and appreciation to one and all.
ampguy
Veteran
try a late pre-asph 35, preferably one that has been to Solms at some point. The filter/hood solutions are not elegant, but smaller and no focus shift like the asph 35
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