tritiated
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The gravity thing just didn't fit as an analogy to be honest- the argument didn't get through, it was amusing though!
It seems your argument is with Gore, what and the way he does/says things. And that's fine because as I have discovered recently - his message is fogged and probably does more harm than good to laypersons perceptions. He doesn't seem to set a good example from what I gather.
One day I'll find out more about him, and perhaps watch his film (unlikely) - but I have heard it is rubbish and will irritate me. I do get annoyed whenever someone mentions biofuels, windfarms, or other 'magic bullet' type solutions. I think implementation of biofuels/ofsetting are going to become one of the most significant global disasters this decade, and many will suffer.
If you think the whole thing is a hoax or conspiracy that's fine, scaremongering warmongering anti US feeling, whatever. I personally think a precautionary principle is appropriate, based on the severity of the possible consequences. Perhaps it could be an opportunity for everyone to get some positive cooperative spirit against a common foe! haha!
I have discovered a lot as a result of this thread, it's fascinating to see how others think and I've found it useful looking again at the various issues. One thing I do get from all of this, is that science needs to be communicated much much better. There's a lot of confusion on various things. The media and celebrities seem to be very poor at this, I've read some terrible articles.
Regarding the original post, yesterday I went on to the "post some pictures from your M8" thread and I have to say they are incredible! The images are truly fantastic! I think the best thing to do given the original post choice, is to sell the car, buy the M8, and get shooting on the bus or at cycle stops!! hoho ho
It seems your argument is with Gore, what and the way he does/says things. And that's fine because as I have discovered recently - his message is fogged and probably does more harm than good to laypersons perceptions. He doesn't seem to set a good example from what I gather.
One day I'll find out more about him, and perhaps watch his film (unlikely) - but I have heard it is rubbish and will irritate me. I do get annoyed whenever someone mentions biofuels, windfarms, or other 'magic bullet' type solutions. I think implementation of biofuels/ofsetting are going to become one of the most significant global disasters this decade, and many will suffer.
If you think the whole thing is a hoax or conspiracy that's fine, scaremongering warmongering anti US feeling, whatever. I personally think a precautionary principle is appropriate, based on the severity of the possible consequences. Perhaps it could be an opportunity for everyone to get some positive cooperative spirit against a common foe! haha!
I have discovered a lot as a result of this thread, it's fascinating to see how others think and I've found it useful looking again at the various issues. One thing I do get from all of this, is that science needs to be communicated much much better. There's a lot of confusion on various things. The media and celebrities seem to be very poor at this, I've read some terrible articles.
Regarding the original post, yesterday I went on to the "post some pictures from your M8" thread and I have to say they are incredible! The images are truly fantastic! I think the best thing to do given the original post choice, is to sell the car, buy the M8, and get shooting on the bus or at cycle stops!! hoho ho
benlees
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Sure love your enthusiasm! But no one is forcing you to do anything, obviously. You missed the point on that particular example. The point was that once we are sitting in our (hopefully) comfortable homes with our gear snuggled up beside us, quietly tapping at our keyboards (all thoughts of semiconductor manufacture, strip mining and otherwise, oil spills, chemical spills, all safely tucked away) we can wonder about the EXTRA steps it takes to use film. Or digital. That was all! Merely casting the net, so to speak.
Everyone has their own bias. Why, and/or how, that bias needs to be defended leads to interesting discussions.