Which P&S would you most like and why?

Since I don't consider the Hexar AF a point and shoot, and I've had many of the very high end contax, nikon, and leica ones... I'd go with the Ricoh GR21 no doubt for film. The only real digital P&S (small sensor) that interests me is the Ricoh GRD III.
 
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Something I really like about the entire Olympus XA and 35 range is that I can (and do) leave the flash at home in a drawer. It would be nice to have a more modern P&S with flash that can be permanently suppressed. And with a power switch as part of the sliding cover (also an Olympus feature). But does it exist?

Regards, David

PS And I'd love to be able to type to the end of a line and still be logged in.
 
Ricoh GR1-V for me.

My reason is because I had one and sold it before I'd really had a chance to use it properly. So I'd like to try again!

John
 
For black and white: GR1
For Color: Yashica T4

Both have great lenses which is all I really want in a point and shoot. I could care less about the viewfinder. For me if I want control and a good viewfinder, I'll grab my Leica. If I need something smaller, I'm willing to sacrifice the control, but I want the photos to look good.

The GR1 renders black and white really nicely and has the added bonus of great ergonomics.

I love the t4 lens for color even though you have to turn the flash off every damn time and sometimes it focuses incorrectly. Also I tend to travel to beach areas a lot and the weather seals etc make it a nice vacation camera. It's a little fat but it works.

I tried the Contax t2 as a T4 with more control but it's much heavier and I don't like the rendering of the sonnar lens nearly as much as the tessar on the T4. The extra controls are nice but I want great photos.

I'd like to try a Hexar AF but since it's the size of a Leica, I don't really see it as a point and shoot.
 
David Hughes said:
BTW, I'm not sure if the X90 and Prego 90 and Giro 90 are one and the same and there seems to be a lot of different lenses available but very little information on them. Not finding anything about a camera on the www often spurs me on to buy one.
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I can only comment about the Prego 90. I read a few years ago that out of the two lens variants Schneider Kreuznach or Varioapogon, the Schneider is the one to have. Aparently, The Schneider lens was fitted on the earlier versions and then they switched to the Varioapogon. It was said that the cost of the Schneider lens was too much and the Apogon was a cheaper alternative. Same design as the Schneider but Rollei manufacturing in-house. Don't know if there is any substance to this, but I hunted down the Schneider version and can confirm it's a fantastic performer.

Paul
 
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I love the t4 lens for color even though you have to turn the flash off every damn time and sometimes it focuses incorrectly. Also I tend to travel to beach areas a lot and the weather seals etc make it a nice vacation camera. It's a little fat but it works.
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Wow, the T4 fat? You wouldn't like the Yashica T3 then as it dwarfs the T4 in both physical size and 'fatness'.

Paul
 
Hmmm... Point and Shoot. That means something (or someone) other than the photographer makes all the decisions regarding exposure, flash and focusing. All I would have to do is load film, compose each shot, remove the automatically rewound film and get it to a lab for processing. OK. I could buy into this occasionally. That means an Olympus Stylus Epic with its 35mm f/2.8 lens. It works real well with Reala (which scans to a beautiful B&W too.) No sweat. Why get exotic and fancy... I'm just looking to point and shoot.
 
David Hughes said:
Something I really like about the entire Olympus XA and 35 range is that I can (and do) leave the flash at home in a drawer. It would be nice to have a more modern P&S with flash that can be permanently suppressed. And with a power switch as part of the sliding cover (also an Olympus feature). But does it exist?

Regards, David

PS And I'd love to be able to type to the end of a line and still be logged in.
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Many of the later Canon Sure Shot cameras (Classic 120, Z135 and Z155 for sure, and probably others) allow you to set a personal "Custom" mode, which allows for permanent flash suppression. The Konica Lexio 70 and 70W remember the last mode that you used, so if your flash is off when you turn the camera off, tapping the mode button once recalls the last mode used, and the power switch is tied into the sliding lens cover, like on the Stylus. I'm sure that there are others that are similarily featured.

And yes, you missed out on the Prego 90, and it was a bargain. ;)
 
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I can only comment about the Prego 90. I read a few years ago that out of the two lens variants Schneider Kreuznach or Varioapogon, the Schneider is the one to have. Aparently, The Schneider lens was fitted on the earlier versions and then they switched to the Varioapogon. It was said that the cost of the Schneider lens was too much and the Apogon was a cheaper alternative. Same design as the Schneider but Rollei manufacturing in-house. Don't know if there is any substance to this, but I hunted down the Schneider version and can confirm it's a fantastic performer.

Paul
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And I guess that there's a Samsung version as well, like my X70, which might be a Prego 70 or a Giro 70 and so on. It's got a VarioRolleigon 35-70 lens on it btw.

This week my mystery camera is the Olympus AF-1 mini which I bought because it had the flash on the sliding cover. I've found out a little about it and, for once, haven't found a million people on other forums asking where they can get an instruction manual...

Regards, David
 
Greyscale said:
Many of the later Canon Sure Shot cameras (Classic 120, Z135 and Z155 for sure, and probably others) allow you to set a personal "Custom" mode, which allows for permanent flash suppression. The Konica Lexio 70 and 70W remember the last mode that you used, so if your flash is off when you turn the camera off, tapping the mode button once recalls the last mode used, and the power switch is tied into the sliding lens cover, like on the Stylus. I'm sure that there are others that are similarily featured.

And yes, you missed out on the Prego 90, and it was a bargain. ;)
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Thanks, I think I've one or two of those in the heap. I'll have a look and see. If your ears burn it will be because you've messed up my master plan to reduce the heap to just half a dozen cameras...

Regards, David
 
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I've worked my way through a Minilux and two Nikon 35Tis. Lovely lenses but they died on me after some fairly light use and while travelling. I also had a Contax T4 which was good value, but I never liked the sharp contrast of its images. I now have an Olympus XA, for occasional use, but I prefer my M3.
 
so your definition of a point and shoot is a camera that you cant change lens? Because thats pretty much the only common denominator in the cameras you're discussing here.

Anyway if thats the case I'd take one of the 6X9 Fujis. If that's not it I'd take a Leica.
 
Darkhorse:

$60 seems an inordinately high price.
Look on eBay - ask the vendor some questions, and you should easily beat that price. It is an old camera and been out of production quite a few years, but quite highly rated: certainly cheaper than the Ricoh!
I've just picked up the even older f3.5 version for £4 and that included box, new battery and instruction book.

jesse
 
Well I love my little Ricoh GX100 and now really fancy one of the film GR's, though I am none too keen on the price at the moment. I do like my new Oly Mju 1 I got for £3 :)
 
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