Broughsup
broughsup
I could not get on with capture one at all, not even the latest version, so have junked it from my computer altogether and will stick with Adobe Elements 6 and CS3, particularilly like Bridge. Don
Philippe D.
Cheeeeeese
I use Capture One too.
Just have to buy the Pro version to be fully satisfied.
Just have to buy the Pro version to be fully satisfied.
Saugmann
Newbie
After turning my back to the evil DSLR and having an M8 for less than a week I have noticed a few things concerning the raw converter. I used the product key that came with the camera to install Capture One 4 on my PC but I have to say the workflow in ACR is a lot easier (or maybe it is just a habit). However, the facts that C1 version 4 displays the f value is very helpful for newcomers to M8 and I have decided to make an effort to learn the program
Ole
Ole
Saugmann
Newbie
After turning my back to the evil DSLR and having an M8 for less than a week I have noticed a few things concerning the raw converter. I used the product key that came with the camera to install Capture One 4 on my PC but I have to say the workflow in ACR is a lot easier (or maybe it is just a habit). However, the facts that C1 version 4 displays the f value is very helpful for newcomers to M8 and I have decided to make an effort to learn the program
Ole
Ole
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Well said, Ole, but might I suggest you leave the typographical controls of this forum at their default setting?
Saugmann
Newbie
Thanks - will leave the control to the forum was just a little confused pasting the text from word
Ole
Ole
biggambi
Vivere!
Maggie, you have the proper combination of C1 4 + Intel Mac + Leopard = Good. On the other hand, I have the combination of C1 4 + NON-Intel Mac + Leopard = Not Supported. Weirdly, it works anyway.
Doug
That is because all the gobbledygook that makes it a Mac is still there. The processor is just not as fast, your ram is probably smaller, and the video card is not as good with regard to your application. We are not talking earth shattering differences, but noticeable.
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As for work flow, i am using Aperture - Nik Software Suite - AutoDesk Stitcher. I like the work flow, and I really like working in Aperture. I can not say enough good things about the Nik software programs. They really are nice to work with and they take Aperture to a higher level. The software that came with my camera was the Adobe Photoshop elements, so I do not have another reference. The Raw Developer seems to be accomplishing the same thing that I can get with Sharpener Pro, but I will down load it to compare. I am downloading C1 as I type, and I will compare that as well. I am really curious as to the differences. This is a great post - thanks b.espahbod.
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Apple has always discouraged software developers from making direct "calls" to the hardware, advising always to go through the OS. Developers of games in particular have been "naughty" in ignoring this advice to gain an edge in performance, therefore it usually "breaks" with new or different hardware.
The language Phase One was using implied to me the likelihood they were in some way bypassing the OS and writing directly to the Intel processor. Evidently not, as their latest software runs fine on my dual IBM PowerPC G5 processor Mac (5.5Gb RAM). For now.
The language Phase One was using implied to me the likelihood they were in some way bypassing the OS and writing directly to the Intel processor. Evidently not, as their latest software runs fine on my dual IBM PowerPC G5 processor Mac (5.5Gb RAM). For now.
kittyphoto
Member
I used to compare Aperture and C1 a long time ago.
I like aperture because of the 3rd party plug-in, album printing etc.
The file quality is also much better than ACR or LR.
Try download M8 files the eagle head from Leica website.
You will see what I mean.
It seems Aperture has all everything at minimum price.
But there are a few things which I don't like Aperture.
1. Everytime Aperture develop portrait shots the specular highlight in the eyes always has green border around the white specular.
2. All raw files has been imported to filevault? Not sure I call it right. But it is very difficult to seperate each project and do backup. I don't like Aperture worksflow.
Aperture worksflow is the main reason I still use C1 Pro. I really wish I could move to Aperture. As you mention silvereffex and others 3rd party plugin is really good!
mikemyers
Established
Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I just recently got my M8.2, and most of the photos I take are intended for the web. I've read about how much better the 'raw' capability of the M8 is compared to jpg, so I guess I'm going to start out using that - along with the software that came with the camera.
My question for those of you who are more experienced with this than I am, is will shooting in 'raw' really make a noticeable difference, when the images eventually are going to end up about 800 or 1000 pixels wide?
If so, and considering that I mostly use Photoshop for image editing, is there a simple way to use the software from Leica to convert the 'raw' image into a jpg that I can then edit in Photoshop?
(A friend of mine has suggested that the latest version of Lightroom has all the information from camera manufacturers, that it will work just as well as the software from the manufacturers, and that most of what I might do in Photoshop I can now do in Lightroom. Do those of you who've tried this with an M8 agree with him?)
My question for those of you who are more experienced with this than I am, is will shooting in 'raw' really make a noticeable difference, when the images eventually are going to end up about 800 or 1000 pixels wide?
If so, and considering that I mostly use Photoshop for image editing, is there a simple way to use the software from Leica to convert the 'raw' image into a jpg that I can then edit in Photoshop?
(A friend of mine has suggested that the latest version of Lightroom has all the information from camera manufacturers, that it will work just as well as the software from the manufacturers, and that most of what I might do in Photoshop I can now do in Lightroom. Do those of you who've tried this with an M8 agree with him?)
user237428934
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The easiest way is, to open them with Photoshop directly if you edit the photos with PS anyway. Using any other program before PS is more work. And one has to decide if that step is useful. I use Capture One (the software that came with the M8) because I like the colours and details this software produces compared to Lightroom or Camera Raw inside PS.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
You should not be editing jpg files in Photoshop. The results are suboptimal to put it mildly. You need to use 16-bit TIFFs for best results.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Photoshop and Lightroom use the same RAW converter, with the same ïnformation" as your friend puts it. It is not quite as good as Capture One 4.8.2, notably in the handling of detail, skin colour and fringing, but it is adequate.
If you set the process settings of C1 to output a 16-bit TIFF into LR or PS you have the best workflow for quality.
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Tracnac
Established
Hi,
I did a lot of test with RAW developer and RAW developer is cleary the king each time...
Regards.
semrich
Well-known
Just voted other, I've been using RPP lately for my M8 files. It took a little getting used to and now it's a short and simple process, open it in Aperture, and use the Silver Efex Pro plug-in. Short and sweet with results I like.
I.G.I.
Member
Iridient (Raw) Developer
Iridient (Raw) Developer
I deserted digital for film, but for 8 years I was using extensively Raw Developer, recently re-christened to Iridient Developer.
http://www.iridientdigital.com/
Of course during all this time I downloaded and tried practically every RAW software for Mac; and always returned to RD because none come close in terms of speed, flexibility, and the quality of conversion. Not to mention that it's modestly priced, and comes from a small developer - please support the small guys because they soon will be driven to extinction by the big corporations, and then there will be even less choice.
Iridient (Raw) Developer
I deserted digital for film, but for 8 years I was using extensively Raw Developer, recently re-christened to Iridient Developer.
http://www.iridientdigital.com/
Of course during all this time I downloaded and tried practically every RAW software for Mac; and always returned to RD because none come close in terms of speed, flexibility, and the quality of conversion. Not to mention that it's modestly priced, and comes from a small developer - please support the small guys because they soon will be driven to extinction by the big corporations, and then there will be even less choice.
Exdsc
Well-known
This is a dated thread but I'd like to point out for those with expensive Leica M lenses that Adobe Camera RAW and Lightroom (most consumer RAW processors) apply a default sharpening to all RAW images.
This is ok for cameras with kit lenses but if you want to see the true sharpness of your lens, disable sharpening in your RAW processor.
This is ok for cameras with kit lenses but if you want to see the true sharpness of your lens, disable sharpening in your RAW processor.
user237428934
User deletion pending
Why should I disable it, when images look better with standard sharpening. Oh wait, you were talking about expensive Leica Lenses. I only own Zeiss lenses. That may explain it.
Exdsc
Well-known
Why should I disable it, when images look better with standard sharpening. Oh wait, you were talking about expensive Leica Lenses. I only own Zeiss lenses. That may explain it.
Actually, you should disable sharpening in RAW processor always because the artifacts that it leaves behind, even if its invisible to the eye will get accentuated with the final sharpening or during processing.
user237428934
User deletion pending
I don't notice this, I'm happy with the default in LR for all of my digital cameras. But I don't deny that others might see a difference and appreciate your recommendation.