While you're on such a roll….

[f16sunshine]

Dear Fuji

While you are on such a good roll with products and advancements.
Would you please re-mount the optics of the f2.4/60mm into a faster non-Macro Helicoid/Barrel.
After recently reviewing some images.. I'm so completely happy with the IQ of this lens (although I just traded it away … sadly).
Simply put, I just could not live with the slow focus for normal use. If I was doing product work with tripods in studio fine.
But, I want to use it for events and such where it was always too late.
Surely a shorter helicoid would improve things in regards to speed.
The Max Aperture and Focal Length make a perfect complimentary short tele for the 18mm and 35mm as a events and candids kit.


What's your idea for Fuji?

 

[mszargar]

And while you are at it, why not a full-frame mirrorless body with a sensor for rangefinder les cams? Sony can produce that along with Playstation IV and horrendous e-book readers. Why can't you?

 

[jsrockit]

What's your idea for Fuji?

More pancakes! 😉 Maybe the 56mm 1.2 will be your thing.

 

[den_sh]

And while you are at it, why not a full-frame mirrorless body with a sensor for rangefinder les cams? Sony can produce that along with Playstation IV and horrendous e-book readers. Why can't you?

APS-C Fujis have quite ****ty corner performance with rangefinder lens already. If you make the same sensor larger it can only get worse. And no, they are not interested in making a camera specifically optimized for M mount. In the best case it will be a full frame camera that can also be adapted to use M lens without great success.

 

[Bike Tourist]

The term "full frame" is not relevant to anything but old 35mm technology. If 24mm x 36mm is full frame, then what is 2¼ square, or 2¼ x 3¼ and so on? Overly full frame? The APS-C size is getting the job done and sensor technology will continue to improve. No full frame needed for my X-Pro1.

 

[jsrockit]

It seems to me that, most of the time, full frame is wanted by those who want to use M glass. To us that use Fuji's lenses, we already know that these Fujis can compete with most full frame cameras. The only reason I want full frame is so my 50mm lens looks like a 50mm and not like a cropped 35mm and my 35mm looks like a 35mm and not a cropped 23mm.

 

[willie_901]

All I want Fuji to do is complete their current lens roadmap ASAP.

If I was compelled to use M lenses, I'd bite the bullet and just use a M mount body.

I could care less that some lenses designed for film rangefinders don't have spectacular corner performance on Fuji's X bodies.

 

[FA Limited]

Andy maybe you could have waited to see what the firmware update was like before trading it away? although i wouldn't really expect significant improvements anyways

 

[gavinlg]

I just want the 23mm 1.4 and the 56mm 1.2 please. Those lenses will complete the system soo much. The 60mm is too much of a macro lens. (too slow aperture, focus throw too long).

 

[splitimageview]

The 60mm is too much of a macro lens.

Well, it IS a Macro, after all. 🙂

 

[gavinlg]

Well, it IS a Macro, after all. 🙂

Yeah thats the problem. I cant think of any genre of photography I like less than macro, and the x cameras arent suited for it anyway. It makes the lens too much of a compromise for normal usage.

 

[splitimageview]

Trying to wrap my head around criticism of a macro for...being a macro. 🙂

 

[Kwesi]

All I want Fuji to do is complete their current lens roadmap ASAP.

If I was compelled to use M lenses, I'd bite the bullet and just use a M mount body.

I could care less that some lenses designed for film rangefinders don't have spectacular corner performance on Fuji's X bodies.

In An early interview the folks at Fuji mentioned that they are considering a "full frame" option. At the time they said the existing 18mm lens would not work but the 35 and 60 would. If Fuji makes a premium full frame body the sensor will have to be optimised for wide angle fuji lenses. Legacy M lenses will benefit.
The technology exists now and has been used by both Leica and Ricoh.
Fuji is just growing its customer base with its current offerings.
This strategy is not in conflict with its current lens road map.

 

[f16sunshine]

Andy maybe you could have waited to see what the firmware update was like before trading it away? although i wouldn't really expect significant improvements anyways

Maybe. I traded my lens away a couple weeks ago before the announcement. No regrets. I traded it for the 18mm which is great for how I shoot it.

The thing about "re-barrelling" the 60mm is that the combo of FL and max aperture are just about perfect and not too heavy either.
A shorter focus throw and it would be much faster. It may still hunt a bit (which is what I suspect FW updates may fix) but get there quicker with fewer "turns" to focus.

The 60mm wide open was like shooting a 90mm at f4. Fast enough for an AF lens and, almost running into too thin of DOF for sharp head and shoulder Portraits etc...
Any faster and I suspect the optical unit would be too heavy for quick AF response (or require a big noisy motor).

We'll see how the 56/1.2 goes. Maybe it's the perfect lens. It would be nice to see a character lens in this set. The f1.2 aperture usually does it 😀

 

[Bike Tourist]

Most people accept the term "full frame" as a synonym for a 24x36 sensor. It's interesting that the synonym is mainly challenged by Fuji and Olympus users. Inferiority complex? If so, visit a doctor.

Thank you, Tom. I lived in Germany for three years and speak the language fairly well so don't be afraid to recommend a German doctor to help me with my "problem".

My, my, we're certainly getting chippy on this forum. I guess it means the Fuji X-periment is doing well!

 

[GaryLH]

Most people accept the term "full frame" as a synonym for a 24x36 sensor. It's interesting that the synonym is mainly challenged by Fuji and Olympus users. Inferiority complex? If so, visit a doctor.

I am not sure who coined the term full frame. I always thought the camera companies may have coined the term full frame. Anyway, I don't remember this term until recently being use to associate 35mm film perspective frame size to a digital sensor of the same size...

When I started shooting in the 70s, there were still a decent amount of medium format users compared to 35... I don't remember the term full frame being used.. People just said 8x10, 4x5, 6x9, 6x6, 645, 120, mf, 35, half frame, etc.

I am a Fuji user and I don't challenge the term, I also use it all the time since it is part of the current slang. But personally, for the type of pictures I take and how I use my cameras, ff is a nice to have, apsc is more than adequate. But I do think u are being a bit stereo typing when u say Fuji and Olympus users.

Gary

 

[jsrockit]

I am not sure who coined the term full frame. I always thought the camera companies may have coined the term full frame. Anyway, I don't remember this term until recently being use to associate 35mm film perspective frame size to a digital sensor of the same size...

Yes, because I guess initially there were no 24x36 sensor cameras and cameras were using legacy lenses made for "full frame."