kbg32
neo-romanticist
Being the consummate New Yorker, I had to choose Winogrand. HCB and Eggleston are not far behind. Not to offend anyone, but as I became more and more involved with photography, while I do respect his achievements, the less I like Adams. I liked him even less after I read his autobiography and began to know his friendship with a certain historian who wanted to write the history of photography in a very biased way.
RichC
Well-known
I voted for Eggleston: http://www.masters-of-photography.com/images/full/eggleston/eggleston_plastic_bottles.jpg
oscroft
Veteran
Hi folks,
A few people have been praising WE here, but I honestly just don't get his stuff at all. I wonder if anyone who likes him would be kind enough to tell us what they think is so good about the photo in the link above? (I'm asking out of genuine interest - I'm really fascinated by other people's views on art).
telenous
Well-known
I appreciate Adams for his craft in B&W and colour respectively but ultimately his photography is not for me. Eggleston and colour is growing on me. I love Winogrand's work but my vote went to Bresson for the thrill and education his work gave to me when a photographic novice. In a certain way I feel that my enjoyment and understanding for Winogrand's work is amplified by the fact that I 'arrived' at it after looking at Bresson's photography. That's not to say that Winogrand's photos cannot be appreciated in the absence of what Bresson did before but I think they take an additional layer of interest if they are seen in a[n imaginary] street photographic dialectic.
T
Todd.Hanz
Guest
Winogrand...of course!
kbg32
neo-romanticist
MOMA had a exhibit years ago of Adams' early work - yes, incredible. I can't help not separating the man from his work. When I was a student, I worked in a large camera store and had the pleasure of meeting Gary Winogrand. While everyone is biased in some way, he was a genuinely down to earth nice guy. While I might not care for everything he has produced, I have respect for the guy.
It's funny, as I've known people who have gotten into photography, there are certain photographers who are always mentioned as favorites at the top of everyone's list. As they have matured, and progressed in developing their own style, they have begun to produce a new set of more "sophisticated" (?) favorites.
As far as shooting lots of film, it could be said for HCB as well. I have seen some of his contact sheets reproduced of some his well known imagery. He didn't always get what he wanted on the first try as sometimes we are lead to believe.
To learn our craft, hone our vision, we have to shoot - lots.
It's funny, as I've known people who have gotten into photography, there are certain photographers who are always mentioned as favorites at the top of everyone's list. As they have matured, and progressed in developing their own style, they have begun to produce a new set of more "sophisticated" (?) favorites.
As far as shooting lots of film, it could be said for HCB as well. I have seen some of his contact sheets reproduced of some his well known imagery. He didn't always get what he wanted on the first try as sometimes we are lead to believe.
To learn our craft, hone our vision, we have to shoot - lots.
ferider
Veteran
I voted AA, but missed Capa in the poll.
One has to split AA from his marketing stereotype, see for
instance his 35mm (Contax RF, I believe) photos of Manzanar
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/anseladams
not that popular in the US for obvious reasons.
Roland.
One has to split AA from his marketing stereotype, see for
instance his 35mm (Contax RF, I believe) photos of Manzanar
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/anseladams
not that popular in the US for obvious reasons.
Roland.
Finder
Veteran
Rather a limited list. There are many photographers I like better than all of those on that list.
pesphoto
Veteran
voted for HCB, but Kertesz in numero 1 for me
jan normandale
Film is the other way
oscroft said:Hi folks,
A few people have been praising WE here, but I honestly just don't get his stuff at all. I wonder if anyone who likes him would be kind enough to tell us what they think is so good about the photo in the link above? (I'm asking out of genuine interest - I'm really fascinated by other people's views on art).
I would have taken that shot too... so I don't know how to tell you what it is about that photograph except I like it. For this one it may be how he has made a cohesive image from what at first seems an asymmetrical one. In looking at his photos in the link Ray provided, his work seems more about the concept first and then the image.
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kbg32
neo-romanticist
memphis said:I like eisenstadt, cappa, the dustbowl photographers, eggelston (he grows on you after meeting and somewhat understanding the man), I also liked bob carlos clarke, there are many others I've liked -- usually, it's the image rather than the photographer --- Stanley Kubrick was an exceptional photographer, jack robinson, there's countless timeless images that really hit home with me
How true Blake!
kalokeri
larger than 35mm
My vote goes to HCB.
Maybe I´m too much part of the so-called "Old-Europe", but I never was that much impressed by Winogrand or Eggelston. Cartier-Bresson was - in my eyes - one of the luckiest men of the last century. He was always at the right place at the right time - remember for example his pictures of Ghandyand his burial.
Thomas
Maybe I´m too much part of the so-called "Old-Europe", but I never was that much impressed by Winogrand or Eggelston. Cartier-Bresson was - in my eyes - one of the luckiest men of the last century. He was always at the right place at the right time - remember for example his pictures of Ghandyand his burial.
Thomas
RichC
Well-known
Eggleston link: http://www.masters-of-photography.com/images/full/eggleston/eggleston_plastic_bottles.jpg
The linked photo, Black Bayou Plantation, asks questions, and draws you in: Why are those bottles there? What happened? What does it mean? This image is hyper-real, almost surreal; Eggleston has deliberately imbued the scattered bottles with significance.
Another favourite photographer of mine is Harry Callahan, who also creates images full of exaggerated meaning. Here's a short essay I wrote on one his photos, which, coincidentally, is also about something dropped: http://www.richcutler.co.uk/photo/essay_01.htm. Unlike Eggleston, Callahan is more traditional in his compositions.
For me, Eggleston's images that work are those, like the one I posted, that seem ordinary but aren't - his photography looks casual, mere snapshots, but are very deliberate.oscroft said:A few people have been praising WE here, but I honestly just don't get his stuff at all. I wonder if anyone who likes him would be kind enough to tell us what they think is so good about the photo in the link above?
The linked photo, Black Bayou Plantation, asks questions, and draws you in: Why are those bottles there? What happened? What does it mean? This image is hyper-real, almost surreal; Eggleston has deliberately imbued the scattered bottles with significance.
Another favourite photographer of mine is Harry Callahan, who also creates images full of exaggerated meaning. Here's a short essay I wrote on one his photos, which, coincidentally, is also about something dropped: http://www.richcutler.co.uk/photo/essay_01.htm. Unlike Eggleston, Callahan is more traditional in his compositions.
ferider
Veteran
I always think it's interesting to see who those guys hung out with.
For example, this is Steinbeck with Capa in the background:
http://www.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc/MAG/Media/TR3/F/W/J/F/PAR45598.jpg
Or the portrait of Georgia O’Keefe by Ansel Adams (another AA RF photo, BTW). Or Ghandi and HCB. Etc.
Roland.
For example, this is Steinbeck with Capa in the background:
http://www.magnumphotos.com/CoreXDoc/MAG/Media/TR3/F/W/J/F/PAR45598.jpg
Or the portrait of Georgia O’Keefe by Ansel Adams (another AA RF photo, BTW). Or Ghandi and HCB. Etc.
Roland.
cp_ste.croix
At the beginning again.
Have to say that I've been a Winnogrand fan since highschool...though it's hard to pick from such a list.
Off the list, I'd say Arbus is my fav of the moment, or maybe Natcheway (sp?)
Off the list, I'd say Arbus is my fav of the moment, or maybe Natcheway (sp?)
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jan normandale
Film is the other way
cp_ste.croix said:Have to say that I've been a Winnogrand fan since highschool...though it's hard to pick from such a list.
Off the list, I'd say Arbus is my fav of the moment, or maybe Natcheway (sp?)
totally OT... where have you been? I thought you dissappeared! Good to see you again.
Ara Ghajanian
Established
Thanks RayPA. If I didn't look at this post, I wouldn't have investigated Eggleston's work. Pretty great stuff. Makes me want to carry color film in my M6 at all times.
I picked Winogrand (even though I love AA and appreciate HCB) because of his attitude. He seems like the kind of guy I'd hang out with. His photos are good too.
I picked Winogrand (even though I love AA and appreciate HCB) because of his attitude. He seems like the kind of guy I'd hang out with. His photos are good too.
cp_ste.croix
At the beginning again.
jan normandale said:totally OT... where have you been? I thought you dissappeared! Good to see you again.
In all honesty, I needed a break. Too much gear lust and there was a bit too much drama for me for a while. I've continued to lurk though.
It's good to be back, there are some great new members here!
And now back to the topic...
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
I think this poll elicit multiple interpretation.
Do you like your favorite's photograph? or his personality? or both combined?
These can yield different choices. Personality-wise, I think my favorite would be Gary Winograd with HCB as a close second. But photograph-wise, Ansel Adams pulled off some of the best imageries I have ever seen.
Do you like your favorite's photograph? or his personality? or both combined?
These can yield different choices. Personality-wise, I think my favorite would be Gary Winograd with HCB as a close second. But photograph-wise, Ansel Adams pulled off some of the best imageries I have ever seen.
keithwms
Established
This is a question that I certainly cannot answer.
I adore HCB for the importance he gave time; I adore AA for the feeling of timelessness expressed in his compositions. Two totally different approaches... but the output from both was equally seminal.
I adore HCB for the importance he gave time; I adore AA for the feeling of timelessness expressed in his compositions. Two totally different approaches... but the output from both was equally seminal.
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