Contarama
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Nikon just put out a DX crop sensor fixed lens so as soon as Sony has there way with it then I bet they will let Nikon use their FX sensors in a Nikon branded body...say 12-18 months maybe. Of course their QC will be sloppy so they can beat Canon's offering by a week or two. 
A full frame, Sigma, mirrorless camera with a next-gen Foveon sensor would be ideal.
I wouldn't count on it. And with the DP series capable of the same print size as 20+ mp full frame DSLRs, I'm not sure why you would care about FF.
unixrevolution
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Just to be clear on this:
The Leica M9 is not a "Mirrorless interchangeable lens camera" in the sense that matters, IE. Live View off the sensor to compose and focus. It is a digital rangefinder, nothing more or less. All you Leica fanboys can stop saying M9, we get it, it has no mirror but it doesn't do the "mirrorless camera" thing that the Olympus and Sony cams do.
However, the Leica M (240) is exactly what the OP is asking for; does LV off the sensor allowing adapted lenses to be precisely focused. It's *also* a digital rangefinder at the same time.
The first non-rangefinder mirrorless? Probably Sony. Their E-mount for NEX cameras is already sporting a FF sensor as a camcorder. Just need to adapt it to a still camera form factor.
Oh, and I handled an RX1...doesn't seem particularly like other digitals to me. I liked it!
The Leica M9 is not a "Mirrorless interchangeable lens camera" in the sense that matters, IE. Live View off the sensor to compose and focus. It is a digital rangefinder, nothing more or less. All you Leica fanboys can stop saying M9, we get it, it has no mirror but it doesn't do the "mirrorless camera" thing that the Olympus and Sony cams do.
However, the Leica M (240) is exactly what the OP is asking for; does LV off the sensor allowing adapted lenses to be precisely focused. It's *also* a digital rangefinder at the same time.
The first non-rangefinder mirrorless? Probably Sony. Their E-mount for NEX cameras is already sporting a FF sensor as a camcorder. Just need to adapt it to a still camera form factor.
Oh, and I handled an RX1...doesn't seem particularly like other digitals to me. I liked it!
Samouraï
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I wouldn't count on it. And with the DP series capable of the same print size as 20+ mp full frame DSLRs, I'm not sure why you would care about FF.
I want the larger field of view. I've been having a similar conversation in another thread. Different lengths offer different qualities, and I prefer the rendering qualities of a 50 on a ff to a 30/35 on a crop (or a 50 on a crop to a 30/35 on a crop, for that matter).
but it doesn't do the "mirrorless camera" thing that the Olympus and Sony cams do.
Thankfully...
I want the larger field of view. I've been having a similar conversation in another thread. Different lengths offer different qualities, and I prefer the rendering qualities of a 50 on a ff to a 30/35 on a crop (or a 50 on a crop to a 30/35 on a crop, for that matter).
I can see that, but then again... why not go bigger than FF? FF is a legacy format.
ruby.monkey
Veteran
I reckon it'll be Phase One - and with a real full frame size.
kuzano
Veteran
Gee... wondering
Gee... wondering
Will it come with it's own little oil can?:bang:
Gee... wondering
Nikon just put out a DX crop sensor fixed lens so as soon as Sony has there way with it then I bet they will let Nikon use their FX sensors in a Nikon branded body...say 12-18 months maybe. Of course their QC will be sloppy so they can beat Canon's offering by a week or two.![]()
Will it come with it's own little oil can?:bang:
kshapero
South Florida Man
Ah yeah. Aren't we there?1. Leica M9
2. Sony RX1
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Now, who do you think will be the first to come out with DNG file support? 
kxl
Social Documentary
Since the OP was posted in the CSC Forum, I assume that the poll is specific to the types of cameras that can be included in the RFF CSC Forum, which excludes the M9 or M240 or RX1. So my answer is -- Sony, with a FF NEX body.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I just assumed that, being a general question posted on RFF (i.e. not being precise), it by default elicited general responses (i.e. rangefinder-related).
Duane Pandorf
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Plus it will have a 300 page manual to try and figure out all the different scene modes, metering modes, focus modes whoops it will be manual focus only right?, and hopefully it won't have the movie button where you can accidentally hit it all the time, etc, etc, etc.
squirrel$$$bandit
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Surely the M240 counts, next will be Sony, then Fuji, is my prediction
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