Who lives in Arizona?

Jorge Torralba said:
What did I do ? :bang: Oh please tell me this is justa dream 🙂

My feelings exactly... Having been kind of stuck here for way too long now I soooo miss all the places where grass actually wants to grow, people say thank you, and summer is not a bad word! Three more years and it's hello Northeast for me 😀 My advice - go back if you can; run, run I tell you...
 
akptc said:
My feelings exactly... Having been kind of stuck here for way too long now I soooo miss all the places where grass actually wants to grow, people say thank you, and summer is not a bad word! Three more years and it's hello Northeast for me 😀 My advice - go back if you can; run, run I tell you...

I divide my time b/w the Northeast and AZ (more in the former for now; more in the latter eventually). As in a good B&W photo - there is a lot of contrast b/w the two.

But I can tell you that rude driving behavior is epidemic everywhere. Manners and courtesy, particularly on roadways, have gone to hell in a handbasket. No one uses turn signals anymore (probably because they would have to put down the damned cell phone!) and other drivers are expected to just "know where I'm going".

Perhaps this is the end product of what was once termed the "Me Generation". You know: "I am the only person on the planet that matters - the rest of you are just 'in my way' "!

Oh, and forget the phrase: "Thank you". With the exception of signs on exit doors of stores, I haven't seen nor heard those two words strung together in a long time.

Whether you prefer lawn grass or cacti is a matter of personal choice. But please don't expect things to be all that different when you return to the Northeast.
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I work for Intel in Chandler. I have a 1 year tour of duty and will berenting. It would be dumb to buy in a market that will crash anytime soon. If I can get out sooner I will but doubtful. Yes people are not very friendly here. Dont get me wrong. I dont fitin very well with the progressive crowd in Oregon. But its sure nice up there. Rain never bothered me and driving is nice except in rush hour. One day I will get back. If any of you are an Intel exec and can get me back NOW, I will give you all of my brand new M gear 🙂
 
copake_ham said:
But please don't expect things to be all that different when you return to the Northeast.
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This is probably the wrong forum to get into it any deeper, but I would love to get some suggestions from folks on what part of the US they've enjoyed living in the most. My planned move is a bit open-ended, I am still trying to decide on where exactly to settle down. My "requirements" are simple: four distinct seasons, limited number of hot & humid days in the summer, nice people (think Kansas City), and a decent economy. Bonuses would include vibrant street life and great architecture (so I have something to photograph 🙂) Proximity to good colleges would be nice too..
 
Jorge,

I too have lived in AZ but up in Prescott and Prescott Valley. I couldn't do the big metropolis of the Lower desert area. But if your only there for a year, it shouldn't be too bad. My sister lives in Flagstaff (I did a short stint there as well), and she loves it. Anyway, get up to Jerome and Sedona, two of the most intersting places. If you get a chance, Prescott has the 4th of July Rodeo that is a blast. There is also the Whiskey Row marathon that always draws a crowd, and it a lot of fun to see the old Whiskey Row. Let me know if you run into a good friend of mine from High School who is working there in the Testing Department? Tell Frank P. I said hey.

Good luck to you!!

Jeff C.
 
akptc said:
This is probably the wrong forum to get into it any deeper, but I would love to get some suggestions from folks on what part of the US they've enjoyed living in the most. My planned move is a bit open-ended, I am still trying to decide on where exactly to settle down. My "requirements" are simple: four distinct seasons, limited number of hot & humid days in the summer, nice people (think Kansas City), and a decent economy. Bonuses would include vibrant street life and great architecture (so I have something to photograph 🙂) Proximity to good colleges would be nice too..


ALASKA!
 
Say what you like about Arizona. I just rode home from our anual Christmas party on my motorcycle. Wearing a T-shirt. It is 77* right now and sunny and is expected to stay that way for the next ten days. 😀
 
When I left Oregon 2 weeks ago we had a cold front come through. It was 27 and I was in a T shirt too 😀

The weather is nice here but I am just plain homesick 🙁
 
I just heard teh 1972 part from the history of pop in the radio and they mentioned that in Winslow Arizona is a sign to point out the corner with the beutiful sight.

Damn, I can't remember the song.
 
Socke said:
I just heard teh 1972 part from the history of pop in the radio and they mentioned that in Winslow Arizona is a sign to point out the corner with the beutiful sight.

Damn, I can't remember the song.


"Take it Easy" The Eagles
 
remrf said:
Say what you like about Arizona. I just rode home from our anual Christmas party on my motorcycle. Wearing a T-shirt. It is 77* right now and sunny and is expected to stay that way for the next ten days. 😀

We'll be coming out to Tucson on 12/31 for a short stay at the house. Please arrange to keep the good weather a bit longer than 10 days. Thanks! 😀
 
remrf said:
"Take it Easy" The Eagles

Yes! That's it!

I was 13 then and listened to T-Rex, Sweet and Alice Cooper. One year later, with my growing interest in the opposite sex, came Uriah Heep and Moody Bluies.
 
Oh, I love the rain. I am on kgw website looking at live pics 🙁 Boo hooo. I want to go home 🙁
 
Tucson's got a lovely "art district" downtown, lots of artists... it's a compact city by comparison to my Albuquerque NM and especially by comparison to Phoenix (which has been described as East Los Angeles), and it's still got a bit of Old West flavor...I have especially enjoyed the little mountain, just outside town, for quick exercise day hikes...much like Tamalpais in Marin County in SF Bay Area. South of Tucson there's Organ Pipe National Monument, which is a little-known gem but unfortunately has suffered from increases in cross country drug "mules" which in turn has been a gold mine for various Fed police agencies.

I'm in Albuquerque.... more of a city than Tucson and it's reliably 10-15 deg cooler in Summer. Tucson's a good town by comparison to Phoenix. Flagstaff is another world, a nearly entirely wealthy/student town now, mountainous tree country, LOTS of snow.

Ethnically, Albuquerque has a lot more Indians than Tucson (Pueblo and Navajo) and a large percentage of our perhaps-40% Hispanic population traces their roots back directly to Spain, not Mexico, earlier in some instances than 1600 (Cabeza de Baca)...whereas Arizona's Hispanic population mostly comes from Mexico..apples/oranges culturally.

I strongly urge Leslie Marmon Silko's "Ceremony," a novel dealing correctly I believe with experiences of returning Navajo WWII POW (Bataan...their taboo experiences were echoed in Vietnam) and also "Almanac of the Dead" a much bigger book that mixes Tucson history, SW real estate development, Arizona's mafia, drug trade, Apache wars, the possible multiple Geronimos, and other remarkable connections..all of it at least somewhat grounded accurately. The "Marmon" in her name connects through her grandfather, who ran a trading post, and the Marmon automobile. She's a brilliant writer who happens to come from the Laguna Pueblo, half way between Albuquerque and the AZ border, one of the Pueblos that revolted and drove the Spanish out for a couple of decades, allegedly due to issues involving their children and Spanish priests.

http://www.english.emory.edu/Bahri/Silko.html

Since you'll be living among Indians and might want to learn a little about them without the paranoia that creeps into Silko's work, I also strongly suggest anything by Tony Hillerman, an 80+ yr old Albuquerque icon, journalist, and novelist who has spent a lifetime socializing with Navajo people...Indian police procedural/mysteries (Sergeant Jim Chee and Leutenant Joe Leaphorn, Navajo Tribal Police), easy reads, great fun. But what's even better, if you're driving to AZ, are the audio tapes...Hillerman's a great reader...several have been made into movies for PBS. Some suggestions "Dance Hall of the Dead," "Skinwalkers" "The Blessing Way," "Coyote Waits" etc...they're sold in all Southwest airports...and knowing some Navajo people a bit, I can say he's more realistically in tune with them than people who study them academically (they've suffered too many anthropologists in the past hundred years).

I'll add this: negativity about people in the SW comes entirely from people in isolated communities (Intel, USAF etc) who have not tried to connect with people who are rooted here....the SW consists substantially of wonderful, generous, entertaining, white, native, and Hispanic people. There are pockets of very traditional black people, as well, though not many Asians . If people don't like outdoor life, don't like Indians, aren't interested in other cultures or people in general, they should stay in the Midwest, where nothing in particular exists (in my experience anyway). :bang:
 
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....the single most beautiful and emotionally moving place in the entire Southwest, perhaps in the US, is Canyon de Chelly, near the NM border... followed closely by the absolutely astounding Chaco Canyon in NM. I think they're both far more photo-rewarding than the Grand Canyon, though I've never hiked down into the latter, which is literally the biggest thing you'll ever see unless you're an astronaut...and I should say I've never done anything worthwhile photographically in any of those places. Chaco Canyon will get some serious photo visits from me this year, when it gets serious snow, assuming my RAV4 can deal with road conditions (caliche clay).
 
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I had a Navajo friend in the Air Force while I lived in Alaska, His mom came up for holiday. They wanted a little adventure so I drove them out into the White Mountains 50 miles N.E. of Fairbanks to pan for gold. About twenty miles down a dirt road in 4wd without seeing another car muchless a human I noticed his mom looking a little nervous. We arrived at the creek and I got out my 458.Win.Mag and then she freaked out. "Theres No People Out Here!" and she was right, no people just us and a hundred grizz and a thousand blackies. We left immediatly and went back to town. I doubt if you could ever get her to see it as the beutiful land that I know. The same goes for trying to talk a guy from the green forests of the northwest into loveing Arizona.

I think of Arizona as more of a Long Lense or Large Format destination. I had a wonderful vacation there as a child and a swimming pool in the back yard is always a bonus.
 
I spend my time in the mountains of washington and oregon away from people and camping. I wint be doing any of that in this state. I will hike and enjoy what I can. but for the most part I will long for the great northwest.
 
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