wlewisiii
Just another hotel clerk
I own a LOT more than three for my M 240
But in my daily carry bag? My Kobalux 28/3.5, a 50 mounted (usually the Chiyoko Super Rokkor 50/2 or the VC Nokton 50/1.5 Aspherical) and Elmar 90/4. The rest are at home.
yanchep_mike
Always Trying
I use mainly 50mm (46-58mm), 35mm is not wide enough, I like my 24mm as a wide but sometimes 28mm will do.
css9450
Veteran
For the kinds of photos I post here on the forum (IE, rangefinder stuff), I usually use a 35, much more often than a 50. Other subjects (sports, etc) I tend to use a whole different set of lenses.
skopar steve
Well-known
With my M4-2 80% of the time I use a 35mm, 15% the 50mm and 5% the 90mm. On my slrs it's 28mm and 24mm most of the time. On my digital slr it's a 24mm-120mm zoom. Mostly on the wide end unless I'm doing portraits.
I quit a Flickr 50mm group as anything but "50mm" was rejected. Someone posted a picture with a Helios-103, and was rejected as it was 52mm.
Some new Admin had taken over and was clueless that 50mm lenses are typically 51.6mm, 52mm, 52.5mm, etc. Probably best to specify a range.
The Pop Photo test of 32 "normal" lenses done in 1976 listed actual focal length. None of them were 50mm.
Some new Admin had taken over and was clueless that 50mm lenses are typically 51.6mm, 52mm, 52.5mm, etc. Probably best to specify a range.
The Pop Photo test of 32 "normal" lenses done in 1976 listed actual focal length. None of them were 50mm.
dexdog
Veteran
With a rangefinder I almost always use a 35mm lens. I have a lot of 50s, just not a focal length I relate to. I also use a vintage 35 on my Sony for just-for-fun photography
I have more "50's" than Hans Solo can imagine fitting into the Millennium Falcon.
And he can imagine a lot of 50s.
And he can imagine a lot of 50s.
If you want to provide a list of 50's 55's equivalent list of other formats, I can add them to the list.
Here is what is currentlty liosted in the choices of 50's you can select from if not picked up from EXIF.
And here is the list of 35's for 35mmimages.com
Here is what is currentlty liosted in the choices of 50's you can select from if not picked up from EXIF.
Code:
id | lens | focallength
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364 | 3.5/50MM ELMAR LTM | 50
71 | CANON 50MM F1.5 | 50
64 | CANON LTM 50MM F0.95 | 50
286 | CANON LTM 50MM F1.2 | 50
287 | CANON LTM 50MM F1.4 | 50
288 | CANON LTM 50MM F1.8 | 50
214 | FED 50 | 50
116 | JUPITER-3 50MM F1.5 | 50
120 | JUPITER 8 - 50MM F2 | 50
122 | KONICA HEXANON-M 50MM F1.2 | 50
123 | KONICA HEXANON-M 50MM F2 | 50
150 | LEICA 50MM F1.4 SUMMILUX 1ST VERSION | 50
290 | LEICA 50MM F1.4 SUMMILUX 2ND VERSION | 50
125 | LEICA 50MM F1.4 SUMMILUX 3RD VERSION 1997 (ROM CONTACTS) | 50
126 | LEICA 50MM F2.0 SUMMICRON 1ST VERSION 1964 | 50
1082 | LEICA 50MM F2.0 SUMMICRON 2ND VERSION | 50
127 | LEICA 50MM F2.0 SUMMICRON 2ND VERSION | 50
70 | LEICA 50MM F4 PHOTAR | 50
156 | LEICA APO SUMMICRON 50MM F2 ASPH | 50
53 | LEICA ELMAR 50MM F2.8 | 50
54 | LEICA ELMAR 50MM F3.5 | 50
380 | LEICA NOCTILUX 50MM F0.95 ASPH | 50
381 | LEICA NOCTILUX 50MM F1 | 50
382 | LEICA SUMMAR 50MM F2 | 50
324 | LEICA SUMMARIT 50MM F2.5 | 50
323 | LEICA SUMMICRON 50MM F2 | 50
334 | LEICA SUMMICRON 50MM F2 (RIGID) | 50
275 | LEICA SUMMILUX 50MM F1.4 ASPH | 50
222 | LEICA SUMMILUX 50MM F1.4 PRE ASPH (E43) | 50
1 | LEICA SUMMILUX 50MM F1.4 PRE ASPH (E46) | 50
201 | LEICA SUMMITAR 50MM F2 | 50
1091 | LEICA SUMMITAR 50MM F2 | 50
435 | LEICA TRI-ELMAR 28-35-50MM F4 ASPH | 50
216 | LEITZ SUMMICRON - M 1:2 / 50 (CANADIAN) | 50
924 | NIKON 24-50MM F3.3-4.5 AF | 50
925 | NIKON 24-50MM F3.3-4.5D AF | 50
887 | NIKON 25-50MM F4.0 | 50
889 | NIKON 28-50MM F3.5 MACRO | 50
1027 | NIKON 50MM F1.1 | 50
789 | NIKON 50MM F1.2 | 50
790 | NIKON 50MM F1.4 | 50
847 | NIKON 50MM F1.4 AF | 50
848 | NIKON 50MM F1.4D AF | 50
851 | NIKON 50MM F1.4G AF-S | 50
1039 | NIKON 50MM F1.4 MILLENIUM | 50
1029 | NIKON 50MM F1.5 | 50
791 | NIKON 50MM F1.8 | 50
849 | NIKON 50MM F1.8 AF | 50
850 | NIKON 50MM F1.8D AF | 50
1089 | NIKON 50MM F1.8G AF-S | 50
792 | NIKON 50MM F2.0 | 50
1031 | NIKON 50MM F3.5 MICRO | 50
1099 | PORST COLOR REFLEX MC 50MM/1.7 | 50
1058 | SIGMA 17-50MM F2.8 EX DC OS HSM | 50
1044 | SIGMA 18-50MM F2.8 EX DC MACRO HSM | 50
1129 | SIGMA 50MM F1.4 ART | 50
1051 | SIGMA 50MM F1.4 EX DG HSM | 50
1059 | SIGMA 50MM F2.8 EX DG MACRO | 50
1034 | SUMMILUX-M 1:1.4/50 ASPH. | 50
487 | SUMMILUX-M 50MM F1.4 ASPH. | 50
1050 | TAMROM SP 17-50MM F2.8 DI II | 50
1065 | TOKINA 16-50MM F2.8 DX | 50
187 | VARIO ELMARIT 14-50MM F2.8- 3.5 ASPH | 50
1121 | VARIO ELMARIT 14-50MM F2.8-3.5ASPH | 50
418 | VOIGTLANDER 50MM F1.1 NOKTON | 50
44 | VOIGTLANDER 50MM F1.5 NOKTON | 50
420 | VOIGTLANDER 50MM F2.0 HELIAR | 50
488 | VOIGTLANDER 50MM F2.5 SKOPAR | 50
500052 | VOIGTLANDER 50MM F2 APO LANTHAR VM | 50
186 | VOIGTLANDER 50MM F3.5 HELIAR | 50
1098 | YASHINON DX 50MM/1.4 | 50
468 | ZEISS C DISTAGON 50MM F2.8 | 50
396 | ZEISS CF DISTAGON F4 50 | 50
219 | ZEISS C/Y CARL PLANAR 50 F1.4 | 50
500045 | ZEISS CY CARL PLANAR 50 F1.4 | 50
3 | ZEISS C/Y PLANAR 50MM F1.4 | 50
500012 | ZEISS CY PLANAR 50MM F1.4 | 50
2 | ZEISS C/Y PLANAR 50MM F1.7 | 50
500011 | ZEISS CY PLANAR 50MM F1.7 | 50
170 | ZEISS F DISTAGON 50MM F2.8 | 50
99 | ZEISS IIA/IIIA OPTON SONNAR 50MM F1.5 | 50
252 | ZEISS JENA FLEKTOGON F4 50MM | 50
459 | ZEISS JENA PANCOLAR MC 50MM F1.8 | 50
351 | ZEISS JENA PRAKTICAR 50MM F1.4 | 50
345 | ZEISS JENA TESSAR 50MM F2.8 | 50
72 | ZEISS LOXIA 50MM F2 PLANAR T* | 50
244 | ZEISS MAKRO PLANAR F2.0 50MM | 50
78 | ZEISS MILVUS 50MM F1.4 | 50
79 | ZEISS MILVUS 50MM F2 | 50
471 | ZEISS N PLANAR 50MM F1.4 | 50
512 | ZEISS PLANAR F1.4 50MM | 50
456 | ZEISS PLANAR FE 50MM F1.4 ZA | 50
350 | ZEISS ROLLEI-HFT PLANAR 50MM F1.8 | 50
302 | ZEISS TESSAR 50MM F2.8 TLR | 50
442 | ZEISS TOUIT F2.8 50MM MACRO | 50
360 | ZEISS ZA PLANAR 50MM F1.4 | 50
1004 | ZEISS ZF-II MAKRO-PLANAR T* F2.0 50MM | 50
1000 | ZEISS ZF-II PLANAR T* F1.4 50MM | 50
990 | ZEISS ZF MAKRO-PLANAR T* F2.0 50MM | 50
986 | ZEISS ZF PLANAR T* F1.4 50MM | 50
410 | ZEISS ZM C SONNAR F1.5 50MM | 50
87 | ZEISS ZM C SONNAR T* F1.5 50MM | 50
409 | ZEISS ZM PLANAR F2.0 50MM | 50
83 | ZEISS ZM PLANAR T* F2.0 50MM | 50
416 | ZEISS ZS PLANAR F1.4 50MM | 50
(105 rows)And here is the list of 35's for 35mmimages.com
Code:
id | lens | focallength
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239 | CANON LTM 35MM F1.5 | 35
65 | CANON LTM 35MM F1.8 | 35
285 | CANON LTM 35MM F2 | 35
98 | CARL ZEISS JENA VARIO-PANCOLAR 2.7-3.5/35-70 M42 | 35
114 | JUPITER 12 - 35MM F2.8 | 35
480 | LEICA 35–70 F4.0 VARIO ELMAR | 35
327 | LEICA 35MM F1.4 SUMMILUX | 35
328 | LEICA 35MM F2.0 SUMMICRON 1ST VERSION 1970 | 35
329 | LEICA 35MM F2.0 SUMMICRON 2ND VERSION 1976 | 35
146 | LEICA 35MM F2.8 ELMARIT 1ST VERSION 1964 | 35
343 | LEICA 35MM F2.8 ELMARIT 2ND VERSION | 35
147 | LEICA 35MM F2.8 ELMARIT 3RD VERSION | 35
503 | LEICA 35MM F4.0 PA CURTAGON (SCHNEIDER) | 35
52 | LEICA ELMAR 35MM F3.5 | 35
1115 | LEICA ELMAR 35MM F3.5 COLLAPSIBLE | 35
159 | LEICA ELMAR 35MM F3.5 COLLAPSIBLE | 35
331 | LEICA SUMMARIT 35MM F2.5 | 35
223 | LEICA SUMMARON 35MM F2.8 | 35
224 | LEICA SUMMARON 35MM F3.5 | 35
321 | LEICA SUMMICRON 35MM F2. | 35
199 | LEICA SUMMICRON 35MM F2 1ST VERSION | 35
241 | LEICA SUMMICRON 35MM F2 ASPH | 35
225 | LEICA SUMMILUX 35MM F1.4 | 35
274 | LEICA SUMMILUX 35MM F1.4 ASPH | 35
130 | MS SUPER TRIPLET PERAR F3.5 35 MK I | 35
454 | MS SUPER TRIPLET PERAR F3.5 35 MK II | 35
949 | NIKON 16-35MM F4G ED AF-S VR | 35
915 | NIKON 17-35MM F2.8 ED-IF AF-S | 35
1128 | NIKON 18-35MM 3.5-4.5G | 35
923 | NIKON 18-35MM F3.5-4.5D ED-IF AF | 35
917 | NIKON 20-35MM F2.8D IF | 35
784 | NIKON 35MM F1.4 | 35
1049 | NIKON 35MM F1.4G AF-S | 35
1024 | NIKON 35MM F1.8 | 35
1143 | NIKON 35MM F1.8G AF-S | 35
963 | NIKON 35MM F1.8G AF-S DX | 35
785 | NIKON 35MM F2.0 | 35
845 | NIKON 35MM F2.0 AF | 35
846 | NIKON 35MM F2.0D AF | 35
1025 | NIKON 35MM F2.5 | 35
786 | NIKON 35MM F2.8 | 35
1026 | NIKON 35MM F3.5 | 35
751 | NIKON PC 35 3.5 PERSPECTIVE CONTROL | 35
756 | PC-NIKKOR 35 3.5 | 35
1081 | SAMYANG 35MM F1.4 AE | 35
500054 | SCHNEIDER-KREUZNACH 35MM F3.5 | 35
1133 | SIGMA18- 35MM F1.8 ART | 35
1134 | SIGMA 24-35MM F2 ART | 35
1127 | SIGMA 35MM F1.4 ART | 35
1084 | SIGMA AFD 17-35MM F1:2.8/4.0 EX IF | 35
1123 | SIGMA ART 18-35MM F1.8 DC | 35
1126 | SIGMA ART 18-35MM F1.8 DC HSM | 35
103 | SUMMARIT 35MM F2.5 ASPH | 35
483 | T3 ZEISS 35MM F2.8 SONNAR | 35
1043 | TAMRON 17-35MM F2.8-4 | 35
1145 | TAMRON 35MM F1.8 SP | 35
1074 | TOKINA 35MM F2.8 DX MACRO | 35
294 | VOIGTLANDER 35MM F1.2 NOKTON | 35
182 | VOIGTLANDER 35MM F1.4 NOKTON | 35
463 | VOIGTLANDER 35MM F2.5 COLOR SKOPAR CLASSIC | 35
500051 | VOIGTLANDER 35MM F2 APO LANTHAR VM | 35
33 | ZEISS 645 DISTAGON 35MM F3.5 | 35
490 | ZEISS C/Y DISTAGON 35MM F1.4 | 35
500001 | ZEISS CY DISTAGON 35MM F1.4 | 35
491 | ZEISS C/Y DISTAGON 35MM F2.8 | 35
500006 | ZEISS CY DISTAGON 35MM F2.8 | 35
492 | ZEISS C/Y PC-DISTAGON 35MM F2.8 | 35
500007 | ZEISS CY PC-DISTAGON 35MM F2.8 | 35
433 | ZEISS DISTAGON 35MM F1.4 FE ZA | 35
256 | ZEISS DISTAGON F1.4 35MM | 35
514 | ZEISS DISTAGON F2.0 35MM | 35
403 | ZEISS FE 35MM F2.8 ZA | 35
104 | ZEISS G PLANAR 35MM F2 | 35
339 | ZEISS JENA BIOGON 35MM F2.8 | 35
348 | ZEISS JENA FLEKTOGON 35MM 2.8 | 35
250 | ZEISS JENA FLEKTOGON F2.4 35MM | 35
251 | ZEISS JENA FLEKTOGON F2.8 35MM | 35
73 | ZEISS LOXIA 35MM F2 BIOGON T* | 35
80 | ZEISS MILVUS 35MM F2 | 35
42 | ZEISS N VARIO SONNAR 17-35MM F2.8 | 35
304 | ZEISS TESSAR 35MM F2.8 TLR | 35
74 | ZEISS VARIO-TESSAR T* FE 16-35MM F4 ZA OSS | 35
415 | ZEISS ZA VARIO-SONNAR F2.8 16–35MM | 35
359 | ZEISS ZEISS SONNAR 35MM F2 | 35
95 | ZEISS ZEISS TESSAR F3.5 35 | 35
988 | ZEISS ZF DISTAGON T* F2.0 35MM | 35
995 | ZEISS ZF DISTAGON T* F2 35MM ZF-I | 35
1075 | ZEISS ZF-II DISTAGON T* F1.4 35MM | 35
1002 | ZEISS ZF-II DISTAGON T* F2.0 35MM | 35
1009 | ZEISS ZF-II DISTAGON T* F2 35MM ZF-I | 35
408 | ZEISS ZM BIOGON F2.0 35MM | 35
268 | ZEISS ZM BIOGON T* F2.0 35MM | 35
257 | ZEISS ZM C BIOGON F2.8 35MM | 35
272 | ZEISS ZM C-BIOGON F2.8 35MM | 35
91 | ZEISS ZM DISTAGON F1.4 35MM | 35
88 | ZEISS ZM DISTAGON T* F1.4 35MM | 35
89 | ZEISS ZS DISTAGON F2.0 35MM | 35
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Deleted member 82967
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MP Guy said:
What is "a normal field of view" on this site? Is it the 35mm diagonal?
How about "normal angle of view" e.g. about 60 degrees which is applicable to all camera sensors and focal lengths ...
... so about 28mm on my 1.7 crop Sigma although my current personal preference is for a Zeiss Jena 20mm (about 35mm equivalent).
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santino
FSU gear head
50. i don’t use a 50 and a 35, because they are too close to each other. I generally prefer longer focal lengths but when I need something wide, 28 or shorter. So 50 mil covers 90% of my needs.
bbutterfield
Bruce
Minor nit -- the 50mm Summarit is an f1.5, not 2.5.
The classic Summarit of the 1940s/1950s is an F1.5.
The more modern versions are Summarit 50/2.5 and Summarit 50/2.4.
In all of these- "50" is a nominal focal length. The Summarit 50/1.5: I've taken apart 5 of them, all 51.1mm.
Canon LTM-
5cm F3.5
5cm F2
50/1.9
50/1.8 Chrome
50/1.5
50/2.8
50/1.8 Black (revised formula)
50/1.2
50/1.4
50/0.95
50/2.2
Order of introduction "loosely", from memory.
Nine of them- need to update
Canon 50mm, Leica Mount by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr
The more modern versions are Summarit 50/2.5 and Summarit 50/2.4.
In all of these- "50" is a nominal focal length. The Summarit 50/1.5: I've taken apart 5 of them, all 51.1mm.
Canon LTM-
5cm F3.5
5cm F2
50/1.9
50/1.8 Chrome
50/1.5
50/2.8
50/1.8 Black (revised formula)
50/1.2
50/1.4
50/0.95
50/2.2
Order of introduction "loosely", from memory.
Nine of them- need to update
Canon 50mm, Leica Mount by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr
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Benjamin Marks
Veteran
I thought "normal" normal was 43mm, which is why Pentax put out a modern L mount lens in that focal length.
wlewisiii
Just another hotel clerk
Some people have argued that. Others eyes don't see it like that.
I had a Yashica Electro GSN with a 45mm lens that I found just that bit neither fish nor fowl. Not wide enough (35) nor tight enough (50) and soon sent it on it's way.
I had a Yashica Electro GSN with a 45mm lens that I found just that bit neither fish nor fowl. Not wide enough (35) nor tight enough (50) and soon sent it on it's way.
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In 35mm cameras my lens of choice is 35mm. I rarely use a 50mm lens. Although i'm happy enough with a 75mm lens on 6x6
pvdhaar
Peter
And all the time I was thinking normal is what you have when you're less than the standard deviation removed from average.
p.giannakis
Pan Giannakis
That's exactly the same with me.
Most of the times I shoot 50mm lenses, I just know what distance to leave between myself and others.
More recently I started using the 35mm more, I do this to include one more element in the picture or show the town architecture.
I sometimes use a 28mm but this is only for busy city shots when I can get close to people.
I have somewhere a 24mm but I rarely use it. I also got with the idea of a 21mm but I know these are difficult lenses to work with.
Good luck with the the site @MP Guy . I will be visiting to check for updates 👍
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Dogman
Veteran
I've sometimes taken one of my pseudo-Leicas (Fuji X-Pro) out with just the 21mm equivalent attached (14mm Fujinon). It's a different experience to say the least when you're used to shooting with 50mm and 35mm most of the time. One one hand, it's a lot of fun to see things differently. On the other hand, I tend to feel a bit paranoid thinking I might miss some nice shots due to lack of proper gear. Yet there's almost always something that fits the occasion.
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JoeV
Thin Air, Bright Sun
It makes more sense to me to use the horizontal angle of view when comparing various lens angles of view, rather than the format’s diagonal, because when I look at a scene I’m aware of the horizontal angle of the scene as an artifact of my vision, independent of the format aspect ratio. Also, the horizontal angle is format-agnostic, meaning it’s easier to compare focal lengths between various formats in terms of their angles of view (e.g. a 25mm lens on a micro4/3 camera at a 4:3 aspect ratio versus a 50mm lens on “full-frame” at a 3:2 aspect ratio), otherwise, you’d have to account for the fact that their “diagonal” angles of view are at differing diagonal ”tilt angles” from each other, adding another confusing variable into the mix.