dave lackey
Veteran
Hopefully, someone can help me post a poll with a few options. But, essentially, I would like to see a IIIG body (yes, a new camera made with the old tooling and materials) that contains a working digital instrument within.
Think about the quality and size of an original Barnack that is purely digital in it's simplest form.:angel: Complete with interchangeable lenses.
Think about the quality and size of an original Barnack that is purely digital in it's simplest form.:angel: Complete with interchangeable lenses.
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dave lackey
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Worried about price already?
Nikon and Canon already have cameras as or more expensive than the M9. Yet they have a continual parade of models below the $7k price down to $1k or so. Why not Leica? Forget the freaking price and NO I do not mean the X1. This would be smaller, less expensive alternative to the M9.
Can someone offer information on posting a poll?
Pablito
coco frío
While you're at it, I'll take a '55 Chevy hybrid that has air bags, anti-lock brakes and a GPS in the dash. No, not a fake "retro" version, the read deal made with the old tooling and materials...
will-i_am
Well-known
You know I'd be in... I don't even need it to be from the old tooling and materials. Just a high quality, barebones, tiny Leica digital with a M mount.
Unfortunately, we'll be waiting a long time for this... ∞
Unfortunately, we'll be waiting a long time for this... ∞
ruby.monkey
Veteran
It's threads like this that make the X100 mouth-frothers seem rational by comparison.
FPjohn
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The X1 and the NEX 3 are almost there. We only need FF and a sensible choice of cold shoes.
yours
FPJ
yours
FPJ
The X1 and the NEX 3 are almost there. We only need FF and a sensible choice of cold shoes.
yours
FPJ
Well, the X1 yes, the NEX not even close. For the X1 you only need to add the rangefinder and m mount. For the NEX, you have to start over from scratch.
Phantomas
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Why don't RFF members put money and expertise together and make one such camera themselves. Coz guess what, nobody's making a digital Barnack for you and Barnack is EXACTLY what you need (no NEX, no GF, no M9).
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Who wants one?
Everyone.
Who can make one?
No-one.
Cheers,
R.
Everyone.
Who can make one?
No-one.
Cheers,
R.
kbg32
neo-romanticist
Keep dreamin'.
tapesonthefloor
Well-known
I think that's already departing from the bare simplicity of the digital Barnack as envisioned by Dave. The '55 Chevy with a hybrid engine is a great analogy, but oh good God I hate cameras with air bags and GPS. Give me manual controls, manual focus, a real rangefinder, a small screen dictated by necessity, and that's it.
Of course, the fact that we're all answering this riddle differently is why it'll never be economically sound, which is unfortunate.
tapesonthefloor
Well-known
Or, wow, what Roger said. Poetry.
FPjohn
Well-known
Leica Standard
Leica Standard
I was thinking of the Standard. X1 needs a M mount and and the NEX 3 needs a proper Hot/Cold shoe for a finder. It already takes M / LTM lenses with an adapter. Then, there is the Nex 5 which is a bit too wee, a Rollie 35.
yours
FPJ
http://jtec-online.com/coldshoe.html
If only the shoe for the accessory port came as a standard in box accessory?
http://www.sonystyle.ca:80/webapp/w...0803&langId=200&productId=8198552921666192668
http://www.sonystyle.ca:80/webapp/w...0803&langId=200&productId=8198552921666192700
Leica Standard
I was thinking of the Standard. X1 needs a M mount and and the NEX 3 needs a proper Hot/Cold shoe for a finder. It already takes M / LTM lenses with an adapter. Then, there is the Nex 5 which is a bit too wee, a Rollie 35.
yours
FPJ
http://jtec-online.com/coldshoe.html
If only the shoe for the accessory port came as a standard in box accessory?
http://www.sonystyle.ca:80/webapp/w...0803&langId=200&productId=8198552921666192668
http://www.sonystyle.ca:80/webapp/w...0803&langId=200&productId=8198552921666192700
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nemo2
Established
There was something called "digital film" in one magazine some time ago. I don´t know whether it was a hoax (it likely was), but it seemed quite interesting - something what can ad "digital guts" to the film camera utilizing the space for film - usable in virtually any film camera.
There is no reason why a digital back for virtually any old camera (especially those with in-lens shutter) could not be created.
There is no reason why a digital back for virtually any old camera (especially those with in-lens shutter) could not be created.
I get what your saying, but the lack of dedicated dials on the NEX makes it un-barnack like IMO.
If anyone ever accomplishes this... think of the feeding frenzy there will be for all old film cameras of note.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
I saw at least two generations of this at photo trade shows. Several things killed it, including the difference in the distance between the film chamber and the sensor position (a non-trivial problem, as soon as you start thinking about it); the size and shape of the film chamber; the difficulty of positioning the sensor in exactly the right place; the difficulty of communication between camera and 'digital film'; and, I think, in those days storage/download.
Yes, it's possible to build digital backs for almost all cameras, but then you need at least half a dozen different Nikon models, the same for Canon, two for Leica M (M5 and the rest, with baseplate loading makes life even more interesting, to say nothing of shorter flange/film distance on any RF) and so forth. In other words, they'd be semi-custom, like Marty Forscher's Polaroid backs (I still have one in Nikon F fit) and they'd cost a fortune: this is not a way of saving money.
Also, on a different but related topic, using an optical fibre block to move an image away from the film gate is too difficult because there are always some defective fibres, which equate in a way to dead pixels. One manufacturer spent tens of thousands researching this, and that's why they gave up on that project.
Cheers,
R.
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Sparrow
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How hard can it be?
... and it has an MP3 player
... and it has an MP3 player