StevenJohn
Established
filmtwit
Desperate but not serious
Lomophotography. No thanks.
tktk
Member
I've been in the market for an (relatively) inexpensive 6x6 camera. It's almost inexpensive enough at the sale price, but I wouldn't get it a full price. And with interchangeable lenses, it may be possible to adapt better lenses to this camera.
Seems to me that they took design cues from the Polaroid Land 100-400 series.
Lomo needs a better web designer. You have to individually click each right arrow to see the various specs.
Seems to me that they took design cues from the Polaroid Land 100-400 series.
Lomo needs a better web designer. You have to individually click each right arrow to see the various specs.
rbelyell
Well-known
I've been in the market for an (relatively) inexpensive 6x6 .
OT, i just got a mamiya 6 folder. coupled RF, great lens, inexpensive, sunny 16 metering. great cheap intro to6x6.
tony
Beemermark
Veteran
Someone buy one and post a review saying it's junk. please! Stop me from buying it.
JonasYip
Well-known
Thought I'd point out that the link above takes you to a page with prices in Euros, where the preorder price on the black on is 174 Euros.
The US shop has them at... $174 US:
http://usa.shop.lomography.com/cameras/new-in-stock
The US shop has them at... $174 US:
http://usa.shop.lomography.com/cameras/new-in-stock
PointOmega
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Every film user should buy one of these - not for the camera itself (really neat idea, like the Yugo), but to support new fim production. The die-hards already buy alot of film. The future depends on building a healthy niche market. I like to think of the Belair, which appears to be significantly less toy-like than its colleagues, as a gateway to more refined pleasures. In 10 years it'll be Ilford and Lomography for 120 film and, possibly, Lomography alone for new build film bodies. Let's give Lomography a reason to up its game.
GaryLH
Veteran
I pre-ordered one 
I use medium format folders from 645 to 6x9.. The intrigues me, given the price, 6x12, two lens, etc.. I also want to c if I can figure a way to mount a better lens on it...
The product run is rather small... To even be more than a drop in the bucket for 120 sales. This camera reminds me of the old kodak scissor style folders or the polaroid version...
Gary
I use medium format folders from 645 to 6x9.. The intrigues me, given the price, 6x12, two lens, etc.. I also want to c if I can figure a way to mount a better lens on it...
The product run is rather small... To even be more than a drop in the bucket for 120 sales. This camera reminds me of the old kodak scissor style folders or the polaroid version...
Gary
nlubis
Well-known
I'm headed to NY tomorrow. I should stop by the Lomography shop. 
GaryLH
Veteran
On lens barrel you see the infinity, 3m, 1.5m and 1m marks, and f/8, f/16 aperture settings.
A lot of the early mf folders had lenses that stared around f3,6 anyway. Zone focus was the norm for the average camera and on those cameras most people used f8 to f11 anyway unless u had a external rangefinder.. Super ikonta and other rf or non-rf couple folders came later as the norm but they were more expensive, the scale focus folders were around for a long time.
Gary
GaryLH
Veteran
I'm headed to NY tomorrow. I should stop by the Lomography shop.![]()
Pre-order only right now. Expected delivery mid December. But maybe they have a demo unit
Gary
GaryLH
Veteran
Here's a picture of the creation. If you look carefully, it has a bit of front tilt built in. I call it the Holgon...or was that the Grandga...?
Nice conversion
Gary
nlubis
Well-known
Pre-order only right now. Expected delivery mid December. But maybe they have a demo unit
Gary
Yes, here hoping for a demo unit.
smiling gecko
pure dumb luck, my friend
yikes!!!
just placed my per-order!!!
breathe, relax and enjoy.
smiling gecko, aka kenneth
just placed my per-order!!!
breathe, relax and enjoy.
smiling gecko, aka kenneth
tktk
Member
Looked at the product photos again. The film winder looks something like a folding wingnut design. Anyone have user experience with that type of winding? Seems to me that it'd take forever to get to the next frame in 6x12. I have a Zorki 4 that I never use and it's mainly because I hate the winding knob.
ncc1701
Established
If it is automatic exposure, where do you select ISO? Is there an exposure warning since max 125th sec?? Almost pulled the trigger!
bastian a.
Well-known
It is good to see that there is a new camera like this!
... but I will go on shooting panoramas with an XPan and 6x6 with a Mamiya 6
... but I will go on shooting panoramas with an XPan and 6x6 with a Mamiya 6
GaryLH
Veteran
If it is automatic exposure, where do you select ISO? Is there an exposure warning since max 125th sec?? Almost pulled the trigger!
http://microsites.lomography.com/belair/
This sister site gives more info.. But sadly not to your particular questions. My suspicion, no max setting or low for that matter.. U got f8 and 16 only so most likely back to pick your film speed wisely...
They did say aperture priority setup taken from lomo CL-A.
Some of the controls maybe hidden inside the body for all we know. The Fuji af 120 camera had an ISO bar code reader that set iso automatically, but I would be surprised a area at this price would have it. Fuji film was the only one I am aware of that put a bar code on their paper back for iso..
The two lenses are a 90 and 58. In 6x12 according to website 32 and 21 equiv respectively.
Gary
ncc1701
Established
YOU ALL CAN USE LOMO CODE "ilovelomo" for 10% off
and redeem your piggies if you just signed up for $10 off!
Pre-ordered the Globetrotter for the price of the Jetsetter!
Couldn't resist after saving 40 bucks! ARGHHH!
and redeem your piggies if you just signed up for $10 off!
Pre-ordered the Globetrotter for the price of the Jetsetter!
Couldn't resist after saving 40 bucks! ARGHHH!
citizen99
Well-known
+1 exactly.Presuming that it is, or could be made light-tight, one would have to be seriously lacking in creativity or DIY talent to not be able to figure a way to put some serious lenses on the front of this camera.
I'm thinking the price is worth the entry fee to get a base camera that one could upgrade substantially.
I can justify that price for a base camera to work with. After all, I've spent more money for many used MF and folding cameras that had little potential for becoming more than they were designed to be.
I'm following this.....
One of my criteria has been that the camera should fit into a jacket pocket. But, yes, hmmm ...
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