squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
The Samsung looks interesting. I like the idea of APS-C. However, using wide M lenses will probably be even more of a challenge than it is on the G1 -- minor edge smearing could become mid-frame smearing. No articulating LCD (one of my favorite G1 features.) Cine lenses are out with the larger sensor.
The supplied G1 raw converter does corrections, but other converters do not.
Not even ACR? Back when the LX3 came out, Panasonic had to really twist Adobe's arm to make them apply corrections to the LX3 RAW conversion...I just gave up and use jpegs.
You are correct, Lightroom 2.2 and ACR 5.3 (Photoshop CS4) do corrections.
I keep forgetting since I use CS3; the file is converted from RAW to DNG and then opened in CS3, hence no corrections for me.
But I rarely if ever use the kit lens anyway.
I keep forgetting since I use CS3; the file is converted from RAW to DNG and then opened in CS3, hence no corrections for me.
But I rarely if ever use the kit lens anyway.
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i just use jpegs mostly.
Avotius
Some guy
I am actually seriously considering selling my G1 now that I have had it for what...a month? The camera and I just don't "click". It is a very capable, very interesting, and great handling little camera. But this is kind of like me with my old Mamiya 6, it and I never connected on a level that I was comfortable with, and I still think that those Mamiya G lenses are the best I have ever used, its just the body did not work with me.
Will try to sell it off locally but I fear that the demand for this camera is so so so low in China that I wont be able to get rid of it. No stores carry it here and on the online second hand places there are none at all.
Will try to sell it off locally but I fear that the demand for this camera is so so so low in China that I wont be able to get rid of it. No stores carry it here and on the online second hand places there are none at all.
mawz
Established
You are correct, Lightroom 2.2 and ACR 5.3 (Photoshop CS4) do corrections.
I keep forgetting since I use CS3; the file is converted from RAW to DNG and then opened in CS3, hence no corrections for me.
But I rarely if ever use the kit lens anyway.
Adobe DNG converter also does corrections for G1 RAWs shot with the m43 lenses.
MikeL
Go Fish
The days of the reflex mirror are numbered.
Robert, are you going to launch the www.reflexmirrorforum.com?
I see fora on focusing screens, retrofocus lenses, and anti-EVF.
And, of course, a bunch of curmudgeons telling glorious tales of how they used to rough it and still got the job done old-school, with a 45 point auto-focus system, a 24 megapixel sensor, and 63 zone TTL full-aperture metering. Oh yeah, with low-res HD video built in.
"That's the way it was, and we liked it" (channeling Dana Carvey)
Edit: Grumpy old man
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kbg32
neo-romanticist
I am disappointed that the M mount lenses are not really showing any interesting differences over the kit lens but I will keep mine because I think there is potential to this system, especially when that 40mm 1.7 and the 28-300 come out. That would be a great combo kit right there for the light weight traveler.
I have been saying this for awhile. The kit lenses are better. M glass does not produce any differences in the recording of the files. Actually, they seem worse then the Panasonic lenses.
M glass does not produce any differences in the recording of the files. Actually, they seem worse then the Panasonic lenses.
What does this mean exactly? "M glass does not produce any differences in the recording of the files."
"Actually, they seem worse then the Panasonic lenses."
Worse in what way?
Robert, are you going to launch the www.reflexmirrorforum.com?
I see fora on focusing screens, retrofocus lenses, and anti-EVF.
And, of course, a bunch of curmudgeons telling glorious tales of how they used to rough it and still got the job done old-school, with a 45 point auto-focus system, a 24 megapixel sensor, and 63 zone TTL full-aperture metering. Oh yeah, with low-res HD video built in.
Old-school with that 15 pound weight resulting in shoulder and neck injuries.
Zenjitsuman
Established
I looked at the G1 results on the comparison DXO did and its not that much better than some P&S and nowhere near what the Samsung GX results showed. If Samsung uses the same sensor in the NX then it will be a better platform.
Also, the Panasonic 7-14 is going to sell for a thousand dollars. If I sink that much money into a camera it will be at least a real prosumer or pro level well built camera. It makes sense to get at least an APS-c camera that is virtually the same size and has a 1.5x vs. 2.0x (u4/3) crop factor. Also, all the third party Sigma, Tamron and Tokina ultra wide zoom selections will likely be available.
And I also see both Canon and Nikon comming out with this type camera. Maybe they will improve the way the VF handles changing light levels and panning.
Also, the Panasonic 7-14 is going to sell for a thousand dollars. If I sink that much money into a camera it will be at least a real prosumer or pro level well built camera. It makes sense to get at least an APS-c camera that is virtually the same size and has a 1.5x vs. 2.0x (u4/3) crop factor. Also, all the third party Sigma, Tamron and Tokina ultra wide zoom selections will likely be available.
And I also see both Canon and Nikon comming out with this type camera. Maybe they will improve the way the VF handles changing light levels and panning.
andrewteee
Established
I just sold my G1. It did not quite fit into my line up. It was too big to be a serious compact and it was not up to the quality level of my Olympus DSLR. I purchased a film rangefinder instead.
I respect the G1, but I was not willing to buy into the system more seriously, not yet anyway. I'm curious to see what Olympus delivers in the format.
Interestingly, the G1 was the "hot" camera for a while, but I had a hard time finding a buyer, even at an excellent price.
I respect the G1, but I was not willing to buy into the system more seriously, not yet anyway. I'm curious to see what Olympus delivers in the format.
Interestingly, the G1 was the "hot" camera for a while, but I had a hard time finding a buyer, even at an excellent price.
astroman
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People were loving this camera a month or two ago so what happend ?
I must say I almost bought in to the hype
I must say I almost bought in to the hype
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nothing happened, still loving mine!
whitecat
Lone Range(find)er
I sold mine to concentrate on my G2.
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right now i am in camera heaven.
the g1 for complete auto shooting and so light to carry.
rd1 for rf digital with my zm lenses.
and the zi for film use with my zm lenses.
the g1 for complete auto shooting and so light to carry.
rd1 for rf digital with my zm lenses.
and the zi for film use with my zm lenses.
The G1 is still as good as ever, it's just the people who are changing. 
JoeV
Thin Air, Bright Sun
I spent several days last week on vacation in Tuscon, Az. Shot over 300 RAW + JPEG images. I love the G1. However, editing the RAW files in Silky Pix I don't look forward to, especially with this many files.
With SilkyPix I'm getting a standard workflow down, where I adjust contast to a bit above normal; boost color by +10, do some standard sharpening and noise reduction, then "develop" to TIFF. Final tweak is in PS, as levels and curves and such are much easier than in SP.
~Joe
With SilkyPix I'm getting a standard workflow down, where I adjust contast to a bit above normal; boost color by +10, do some standard sharpening and noise reduction, then "develop" to TIFF. Final tweak is in PS, as levels and curves and such are much easier than in SP.
~Joe
Tuolumne
Veteran
People were loving this camera a month or two ago so what happend ?
I must say I almost bought in to the hype
No hype. I still love mine. Wouldn't think of selling it. It gets more use now than all of my other cameras combined.
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Cindy Flood
Established
I love my G1. I have had it since Thanksgiving and am not any less enthusiastic than I was in the beginning.
With every new camera you see the initial euphoria and then some people feel that they need to knock it down. I know lots of G1 shooters who have been just happily shooting away. Maybe it is not for everyone...no camera is, but it seems to me that some of the people making negative comments about it have never tried it.
With every new camera you see the initial euphoria and then some people feel that they need to knock it down. I know lots of G1 shooters who have been just happily shooting away. Maybe it is not for everyone...no camera is, but it seems to me that some of the people making negative comments about it have never tried it.
dng88
Dennis
I sold it, a M3 and a Rockwell recommended Nikkor 18-200 to get a M8.
I like G1 manual focusing and the flap out screen. The x2 factor for my Novo adapater does not bug me that much. But then that is it. Not sure I like the evf especially in the dark. Also, there is a shutter lag. I cannot even take picture of my dog easily
. The picture comes out is not really anything. Epson RD1 seemed to get something different feel (so is M8) but I am not sure G1 get that kind of special feel. Well, I think I like my TLR more even though different kind of camera. I sold G1 instead of my Rolleiflex T etc.
Having said that I think I may wait for the video version. Also, I do not want to carry one small camera like DLux3 and if it can take video plus a good kit lens (and via adapter the other M Lens I carry), it will be on again.
I like G1 manual focusing and the flap out screen. The x2 factor for my Novo adapater does not bug me that much. But then that is it. Not sure I like the evf especially in the dark. Also, there is a shutter lag. I cannot even take picture of my dog easily
Having said that I think I may wait for the video version. Also, I do not want to carry one small camera like DLux3 and if it can take video plus a good kit lens (and via adapter the other M Lens I carry), it will be on again.
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