Why Do You Still Shoot Film?

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in the early '80s, I worked on some of the original IR focal plane arrays, A/D's, data acquisition systems, image processing displays like Gould Deanza 8500's and Ramtek 9465's.

Blame the whole Digital thing on me if you want.

But the debate of film vs digital is really way past all logic and just emotional now.

I use film whenever I want cheap prints. The prints from my Tektronix Phaser IIsdx are nice, but Dye-Sub is about $3 per page. For $1 more, I get a whole roll of 24 developed and 5x7 prints made. Ink cartridges aren't that cheap, and the output is still dithered.

Brian,

Well now that you've 'fessed up there is only one solution. As punishment you have to go out an buy a film camera - which will make you have to change your signature!

 

[planetjoe]

Dexdog: I've always understood it's called a "porkpie" because it looks like a pork pie. Now, I never really discovered whether the traditional use of the term "pork pie" refers to that which is made from the pig or that which comes out of the pig, as in "cow pie". Yecch.

However, if a pork pie was an edible dish, I'd sure be interested in tasting one. Mmm.


Cheers,
--joe.

 

[Bertram2]

How often will threads get off rail this way at RFF ? Didn't we have that often enuff, ad nauseam ?

A discussion is speaking about opinions, not about what is right or wrong.You cannot discuss anything with somebody who insists that he is RIGHT and the other one is wrong and who is not contented as long as the other one does not admit he was WRONG.
If this admission does not come, the "discussion" with such kinda knowbetters necessarily gets more and more heated and escalates unavoidably up to the point where personal offenses get introduced.

Some people simply cannot respect other people's standpoints if they find them beeing wrong and if the other one does not want to give up his damn wrong standpoint they lose control.

It is very easy to avoid all this annoying hassle. Banning is too much honour and , for these kinda self opinionated people it is just a confirm, that those who banned them are a bunch of ignorant a*s****s, as they had assumed it anyway .

Ignoring is enuff, the impact is much stronger anyway, and lasting. At the bar you take your beer and turn around to the other side, why not here ? Don't feed the apes.

bertram

 

[ch1]

I avoided reading this thread for a couple of days but did do so today. Seems it decayed into a slugging match between two posters with everyone else standing by watching the bout.

At least one-on-one was better than an out-and-out barroom brawl.

Perhaps we all should just admit that this whole topic of film, its future, it role via a vis digital etc. is just too hot to handle?

At least consign these kinds of threads to the ANFSCD forum where the battlers can go at it ad nauseum without the darn thing always popping up to the top of the thread list?

 

[Jocko]

Dexdog: I've always understood it's called a "porkpie" because it looks like a pork pie. Now, I never really discovered whether the traditional use of the term "pork pie" refers to that which is made from the pig or that which comes out of the pig, as in "cow pie". Yecch.

However, if a pork pie was an edible dish, I'd sure be interested in tasting one. Mmm.


Cheers,
--joe.

Hallo Joe - surprisingly the pork pie is another originally British hat. Go into any supermarket or butchers in the UK and you'll see pork pies - cold minced pork and spices in a distinctive crisp shell - here's a picture of one. And here's a pork pie hat. The shape, rim and raised crown resemble a pork pie....

Cheers! Ian

 

[ch1]

Hallo Joe - surprisingly the pork pie is another originally British hat. Go into any supermarket or butchers in the UK and you'll see pork pies - cold minced pork and spices in a distinctive crisp shell - here's a picture of one. And here's a pork pie hat. The shape, rim and raised crown resemble a pork pie....

Cheers! Ian

Yes, Ian.

I did a quick "Google" and it is indeed British-origin. Wikipedia (not the most reliable source but...) even says it is synonymous with the Trilby.

Apparently it became popular in US with jazz and blues musicians in the '20's and enjoyed additional popularity when it was "adopted" by certain Hollywood celebs in the Thirties.

Now very popular with ska musicians amongst others seeking a certain "cool".....

 

[Jocko]

And I'd just like to add, George, that, before anyone thinks "oh that sounds nice", our British pork pies are generally hideous lumps of clammy gelatinous gristle encased in greasy cardboard. A distinctive product of our national quisine!

Yum! Ian

 

[ch1]

And I'd just like to add, George, that, before anyone thinks "oh that sounds nice", our British pork pies are generally hideous lumps of clammy gelatinous gristle encased in greasy cardboard. A distinctive product of our national quisine!

Yum! Ian

Reminds me of one of my trips to Oz when I just HAD to try one of their "meat pies". My goodness was that bad!

Back to porkpies, the hat. Doesn't Spike Lee wear one?

 

[Sparrow]

I did a quick "Google" and it is indeed British-origin. Wikipedia (not the most reliable source but...) even says it is synonymous with the Trilby.

Apparently it became popular in US with jazz and blues musicians in the '20's and enjoyed additional popularity when it was "adopted" by certain Hollywood celebs in the Thirties.

Now very popular with ska musicians amongst others seeking a certain "cool".....
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I’m pretty sure sure at lunch today I eat one of “Danny’s prize winning pies” as opposed to his hat!!

 

[Jocko]

Reminds me of one of my trips to Oz when I just HAD to try one of their "meat pies". My goodness was that bad!

Back to porkpies, the hat. Doesn't Spike Lee wear one?

I think he does - and surely the pinnacle of porkpie wearers were Mr Frank Sinatra and his rat pack pals? I always assumed that the popularity of the hat amongst British Ska/Two Tone bands of the early 80s was in fact a direct homage to the distinguished crooner.

(There's also something called a Scotch Pie... I tremble as I think of it... A truly fearsome food, a veritable William Wallace of a dish )

Cheers, Ian

 

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(There's also something called a Scotch Pie... I tremble as I think of it... A truely fearsome food, a veritable William Wallace of a dish )

Cheers, Ian

Now you wouldn't be referring to Haggis, would you?

That's a stomach that requires a stronger one than mine to eat it!

 

[Sonnar Brian]

> Well now that you've 'fessed up there is only one solution. As punishment you have to go out an buy a film camera - which will make you have to change your signature!

Oh No! Not that! Anything but That!

So, SP-2005 or Leica MP with the Noctilux? Does this warrant a Poll?

 

[planetjoe]

I don't know, Ian - that pork pie doesn't look so bad. Then again, I'm usually gamne for anything vaguely pig-originated. Haven't had the knuckles, yet.

As far as British cuisine goes, I'm partial to ales. But, that's probably a given. It's just something to go with my fish 'n chips, I suppose.


--joe.

 

[Sparrow]

And I'd just like to add, George, that, before anyone thinks "oh that sounds nice", our British pork pies are generally hideous lumps of clammy gelatinous gristle encased in greasy cardboard. A distinctive product of our national quisine!

Yum! Ian

Almost treasonable

 

[MelanieC]

Still shoot film? I just started!

The cameras I have and enjoy using the most are film cameras. Also, for some reason I make way better pictures with these cameras than with my DSLR. I don't know if it has to do with image quality itself or something less tangible. I don't know if it's an RF vs. SLR thing. I don't know if it's a b/w vs. color thing. I just know that it's the way it is.

 

[Jocko]

Now you wouldn't be referring to Haggis, would you?

That's a stomach that requires a stronger one than mine to eat it!

Oh indeed, but no - from my limited experience, a "scotch pie" consists of greasy mutton, heated to volcanic pitch and placed within a crust of solid rock.

Believe me, the Scots had no need of Mel Gibson. Those purple hills are home to a race of heroes!

Ian

 

[Jocko]

Almost treasonable

"Generally" dear Sparrow, "generally". The Yorkshire pork pie is infallably perfect!

 

[ch1]

Oh indeed, but no - from my limited experience, a "scotch pie" consists of greasy mutton, heated to volcanic pitch and placed within a crust of solid rock.

Believe me, the Scots had no need of Mel Gibson. Those purple hills are home to a race of heroes!

Ian

Seems we need Macauley to chime in about now - that is if she isn't too busy mixing up her blue paint!

 

[Sparrow]

thank you Ian, howeaver IMO the Scots, haggis their pies and Burns all deserve each other

 

[Jocko]

Sparrow, I think George and Joe deserve Toad in the Hole with Bubble and Squeak, followed by Spotted Dick and accompanied by Vimto and British Sherry!

Now that's a meal!