Archiver
Veteran
Do you have any examples of great photographers who produce bad tutorial videos? There is a wide range of people on YouTube producing photography videos, but I haven't come across too many that are great photographers but bad video producers.
ruby.monkey
Veteran
"Them what can, do. Them what can't teach". It's pretty hard to make a good living just from photographs for most.
I prefer Aristotle's version: Those that know, do. Those that understand, teach.
David Hughes
David Hughes
Trouble is that those who don't know; don't understand and don't care usually end up as politicians...
Regards, David
Regards, David
Benjamin Marks
Veteran
Trouble is that those who don't know; don't understand and don't care usually end up as politicians...
Regards, David
Funny. But I guess you haven't met many politicians. I have known my state senator and one of my state reps for almost two decades, and it is hard to imagine two more intelligent, earnest, hardworking people. Doesn't mean they are all that way, of course.
The OP's question asks why so many people in category A are also members of category B. I am not convinced, as in my counterexample above, that the OP has identified an actual correlation, but let's say he has. The two categories have nothing to do with one another. A photograph represents an instant in time; a video shows a sequence of events over time. It is like asking why photographers don't make good ballet dancers. The OP's question also assumes that a great artist knows what makes him/her great and can explain him or herself. This is also a dubious proposition.
David Hughes
David Hughes
Funny. But I guess you haven't met many politicians. I have known my state senator and one of my state reps for almost two decades, and it is hard to imagine two more intelligent, earnest, hardworking people. Doesn't mean they are all that way, of course.![]()
Well, I have been living and trying to cope with their blunders for decades and am not very impressed. Most seem to have their heads stuck firmly in the sand.
As for videos and still photo's, they are two different things. Both require several skills and not every one has them all. Professional video makers often employ several others to do all the various things that make a good video etc. That is rather beyond the typical amateur video maker...
Regards, David
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
it's a bit similar to interviewing sportsmen or artists: the amount of nonsense they say can be staggering and disappointing.
They're just good at something and bad at something else. Like most of us
They're just good at something and bad at something else. Like most of us
Out to Lunch
Ventor
''Click and move on'', indeed.
Benjamin Marks
Veteran
Well, I have been living and trying to cope with their blunders for decades and am not very impressed. Most seem to have their heads stuck firmly in the sand.
As for videos and still photo's, they are two different things. Both require several skills and not every one has them all. Professional video makers often employ several others to do all the various things that make a good video etc. That is rather beyond the typical amateur video maker...
Regards, David
I don't disagree about the results, David, just the personal characterization. Politics, which is to say: the art of Intelligent compromise, is a lost art the world 'round right now, and we should all be asking why that is. And as for video: we agree.
David Hughes
David Hughes
I don't disagree about the results, David, just the personal characterization. Politics, which is to say: the art of Intelligent compromise, is a lost art the world 'round right now, and we should all be asking why that is. And as for video: we agree.
Hi,
Well, yes, I think we agree.
FWIW, I don't think the idea of a sensible compromise ever enters what - for want of a better word - we'll call their minds. It seems to be about winning and humiliation these days.
Regards, David
MIkhail
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Why is it that so many otherwise great photographers who take and display countless great photos insist on producing totally awful videos purporting to teach us how to take great photos?
It could be that their kids want to eat too?
farlymac
PF McFarland
I think a lot of the worse video makers either don't have the time to put out a quality product, or think all you have to do is sit in front of your camera and blah blah blah for fifteen minutes.
I like the ones who try to give a lively presentation, as long as it gets across what they are attempting to teach.
PF
I like the ones who try to give a lively presentation, as long as it gets across what they are attempting to teach.
PF
Filter Factor
Established
There ARE some good photographers that make excellent videos; just thought I should mention. They're not hard to find.
Cheers, Robert
Cheers, Robert
Ambro51
Collector/Photographer
Well here’s a simple formula that Always works. Take 50,000 photos. Pick out the best 20.
Vince Lupo
Whatever
Whenever I need an inspirational kick in the pants, I watch this video:
https://vimeo.com/116692462
If you want a video that will help you become a better photographer, this is it.
https://vimeo.com/116692462
If you want a video that will help you become a better photographer, this is it.
ptpdprinter
Veteran
There is nothing inherently wrong with videos. It is just that most videos, like forums, are about cameras and not about photography. How many videos about how such and such a camera is the greatest thing since sliced bread do you really need to watch, if any, to improve your photography? I'm reminded of late night Veg-a-matic commercials.
MIkhail
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Well here’s a simple formula that Always works. Take 50,000 photos. Pick out the best 20.
Following the same logic, does painter paints 1000 paintings and then pick 10 good ones?
If you clearly know what you looking for (with obvious variations) or at least have an idea of your own basic criteria of what's good, then you don't need the 50 000. Unless you just want to take 50 000 for fun - nothing wrong with that I suppose.
shawn
Veteran
Following the same logic, does painter paints 1000 paintings and then pick 10 good ones?
van Gogh produced something like 1000 oil paintings. I think most people know a handful of his works.
Shawn
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
I prefer Aristotle's version: Those that know, do. Those that understand, teach.
Aligns better with my feelings about teachers. Amazing people.
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
Trouble is that those who don't know; don't understand and don't care usually end up as politicians...
Regards, David
Seems anymore to be so.
ptpdprinter
Veteran
Surely you are not suggesting that all paintings of an artist are equally good.Following the same logic, does painter paints 1000 paintings and then pick 10 good ones?
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