why is street photography so hated?

[Huss]

i guess i could do that...but it's frustrating to me...i have posted images on a regular basis here at rff for years, probably on a weekly basis and very rarely get a word back.
i have a long standing project shooting a local farmers market and i regularly shoot in a certain section of town (for years now) so it's not just an isolated image that gets posted...i don't pretend to have a singular talent or a unique vision nonetheless a word back would be nice...

Just checked your sites, there is some nice stuff there. The little girl in pink pushing the stroller is great.
If you want your work critiqued, I'd recommend sites like fredmiranda.com
There the emphasis seems to be much more about the image.

 

[back alley]

Joe I think some editing might be in order but you have a great set of images. I personally think i would stick all black & white but I have a bias LoL and I have seen some really good projects that have mixed color and B&W. I like the way you have given a real feel for what it is like to be there and those close intimate shots bring you in and help the overall group.

flicker is more of a holding site...my image blogs hold the better images and i have no where that i have set up an edited thought out gallery.

 

[back alley]

Just checked your sites, there is some nice stuff there. The little girl in pink pushing the stroller is great.
If you want your work critiqued, I'd recommend sites like fredmiranda.com
There the emphasis seems to be much more about the image.

thanks for looking and commenting.

 

[OurManInTangier]

A quick flick through and already I can see you deal well with light generally but specifically with what I imagine is fairly troublesome strip lighting mixed with strong daylight(?) Plus, it looks to me like you've been a fixture there long enough to disappear into the background when you want to or to be as much a part as any of the stall holders and visitors.

I'd agree an edit would help but I suppose Flickr may be a bit of a dumping ground, if I can put it like that. If you put them in a thread you could also give a little text background, not to talk them up as such but to provide an insight for us. Plus it would help people interested in doing something similar to see your pictures and some of your thoughts on what you did, why and how etc

Just a few thoughts, hope you don't mind.

 

[OurManInTangier]

^^^

Just seen you above comments, ignore mine as appropriate 🙂

 

[airfrogusmc]

Don't want to start a war but I really find FM to be a lot about the camera club/calendar art/PPA aesthetic. I don't post much there lately street gets very little attention and a lot hate. I have seen some awful advice given there. Check it out but you have Frank here. I'm sure you will get more from what some here have to say than over there. There are some really good street photographers here.

Having said that there is the Leica thread over at FM that is one of my favorite threads period.

 

[airfrogusmc]

A quick flick through and already I can see you deal well with light generally but specifically with what I imagine is fairly troublesome strip lighting mixed with strong daylight(?) Plus, it looks to me like you've been a fixture there long enough to disappear into the background when you want to or to be as much a part as any of the stall holders and visitors.

I'd agree an edit would help but I suppose Flickr may be a bit of a dumping ground, if I can put it like that. If you put them in a thread you could also give a little text background, not to talk them up as such but to provide an insight for us. Plus it would help people interested in doing something similar to see your pictures and some of your thoughts on what you did, why and how etc

Just a few thoughts, hope you don't mind.

Agree. And there in now a thread here for just such a thing and I like to hear what and why something is photographed. In a gallery show you will have an artist statement and in a book there are forewords. We should all be able to express why.

 

[Monochrom]

Every photographic genre or style is hard to tame and harder to master.

People have different ambitions and thus they tend to go deeper into it or to be light.

The internet is sooo extense...hay de todo en la viña del señor...😀

I only speak for myself here. Not trying to explain the public opinion.
I don't categorically "hate" street photos, but 99.9% of what I see *on the internet* is to my eye trashy snapshooting. It seems to me that most internet posters who label themselves "street shooters" :
1) are shotgunning
2) have a very weak editing ethic
3) think that ANYTHING shot on the street is fascinating and worth showing the world
4) think that ANYTHING labeled "street" is categorically wonderful
5) think that one interesting element of an image makes up for the 95% of the image that is crap

Good / excellent street work is extremely hard to get right (I tried and gave up 😛 ). Most internet people take the shortcut of redefining what is good rather than working to actually get it right.

Sorry .... once I got started, it was hard to stop 😀

 

[jsrockit]

Thats why you need to build more into the work and it's those like Bresson. Nathan Lyon, Robert Frank, Winogrand that did just that and are still in the conversation.

Huh? I wasn't talking about myself.

 

[airfrogusmc]

Just checked your sites, there is some nice stuff there. The little girl in pink pushing the stroller is great.
If you want your work critiqued, I'd recommend sites like fredmiranda.com
There the emphasis seems to be much more about the image.

Yes and that is one of the problems. It is rarely about the body of work but about the individual image. My question would be how are the images relating to one another and do you have to much that is redundant? I have pulled really strong images from bodies of work in the past because they didn't fit visually or fit the overall them or wound up hurting the flow. And sometimes those images were as Gibson calls them a point of departure and the start of another project.

 

[airfrogusmc]

Huh? I wasn't talking about myself.

LoL I meant that in generically. You as in anyone and I think i grabbed the wrong quote. I can't type and think at the same time.....

 

[back alley]

A quick flick through and already I can see you deal well with light generally but specifically with what I imagine is fairly troublesome strip lighting mixed with strong daylight(?) Plus, it looks to me like you've been a fixture there long enough to disappear into the background when you want to or to be as much a part as any of the stall holders and visitors.

I'd agree an edit would help but I suppose Flickr may be a bit of a dumping ground, if I can put it like that. If you put them in a thread you could also give a little text background, not to talk them up as such but to provide an insight for us. Plus it would help people interested in doing something similar to see your pictures and some of your thoughts on what you did, why and how etc

Just a few thoughts, hope you don't mind.

don't mind at all...eventually i will do a through edit and post images in a more gallery like setting.

 

[airfrogusmc]

don't mind at all...eventually i will do a through edit and post images in a more gallery like setting.

I think you are really on to something. There is already a nice flow and a strong feeling of putting me there.

Edit down to say your top whatever # is apporprite of images that convey your meaning and all have a certain consistent feel to and copy them into that thread I was telling you about.

 

[FrankS]

To help edit: there are 3 shots of a woman playing a harp. 2 from behind, 1 from above and behind. Don't include those. The one of the woman with violin and cell phone in great light: keep that one.

 

[airfrogusmc]

I always tend to ask instead of pushing my vision by asking if you have 3 images that are all similar which one fits best with the others either visually or in the sense of the overall theme?

 

[back alley]

To help edit: there are 3 shots of a woman playing a harp. 2 from behind, 1 from above and behind. Don't include those. The one of the woman with violin and cell phone in great light: keep that one.

thanks frank!

 

[Red Robin]

Most of my photos may not be stellar, but I take what I like. Mostly it's my pets & family with the bulk being my growing flowers, as I love to garden. I have no doubt there is much room for improvement for both my hobbies but trying to judge someone else s subject choice is to me akin to someone telling me what flower to grow. I'm also very happy the famous photographers didn't put themselves into a cookie-cutter mentality. My images may not be great but I like some of them. Actually more and more of them as time goes by. Look around the internet and I find oodles of sites sporting work that easily surpasses my efforts but I keep plugin along. At my age I feel it is the journey not the destination that counts in a lot of things. .. ... especially my hobbies.

 

[FrankS]

It is more important to some than to others, but external validation is nice to get. I understand that. Here's the big question: are you willing to change your shooting style from what pleases you now to something that may be more popular?

How happy are you with your images yourself, Joe?

Another question: Does changing your shooting style mean compromise or growth?

Hoping for comments on this.

 

[Lauffray]

are you willing to change your shooting style from what pleases you now to something that may be more popular?

No

Another question: Does changing your shooting style mean compromise or growth?

Depends for what reason the change happened, i like to think my "style" evolves naturally over time so that change is welcome but if I had to adapt to please some external audience I'd consider it compromise

 

[back alley]

Hoping for comments on this.

as i stated before...i am fine with my current images...i like the look of what i am producing and i know how to change that look should i ever desire...to be clear, i am not looking to be popular i am looking for a response to my images...i cannot control how they impact people but i would like to know how they impact people.
i currently don't have a need to change my style, don't know if it would mean compromise or growth...i guess it would depend on why i changed.
i like the clean crisp look of digital...i like what i include in my images, how they are cropped etc., sometimes i like wide and sometimes a more normal fov...rarely like the compressed look of a long lens...i know what i like and i produce that look at will.