Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Hardly a medium format lens though (to go by the thread title)![]()
The Horseman 612 uses 120, Sylvestri's also, but your point is well taken. The XL really is a 4x5 lens.
Cal
meandihagee
Well-known
Thank you everyone.
I think my best bet would be the Mamiya with the 35mm and while I am at it I will get some normal to long lens, for the occasional portrait.
However I am a bit confused, does the Mamiya Pro TL take leaf shutter lenses or...
I think my best bet would be the Mamiya with the 35mm and while I am at it I will get some normal to long lens, for the occasional portrait.
However I am a bit confused, does the Mamiya Pro TL take leaf shutter lenses or...
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Thank you everyone.
I think my best bet would be the Mamiya with the 35mm and while I am at it I will get some normal to long lens, for the occasional portrait.
However I am a bit confused, does the Mamiya Pro TL take leaf shutter lenses or...
Not to stress you out, but I just received a notice from KEH about a medium format sale that will only last over the weekend.
Cal
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Thank you everyone.
I think my best bet would be the Mamiya with the 35mm and while I am at it I will get some normal to long lens, for the occasional portrait.
However I am a bit confused, does the Mamiya Pro TL take leaf shutter lenses or...
The RB67 Pro TL only takes RB67 lenses (no M645 ones), which are leaf shutter and where the widest is a 50mm - very nice and by now affordable, but not as wide as some other options mentioned.
Texsport
Well-known
Truely great lenses but one negative of the Mamiya 6/7 system is that the long lenses do not focus close enough to yield cloe up portraits.
It's one reason that I chose to use the Fujica 670/690 interchangeable lens system.
The other is the tendency of the Mamiya rangefinders to get knocked out of adjustment. I'd suggest learning how to readjust or locate a good repair shop, just in case.
Texsport
It's one reason that I chose to use the Fujica 670/690 interchangeable lens system.
The other is the tendency of the Mamiya rangefinders to get knocked out of adjustment. I'd suggest learning how to readjust or locate a good repair shop, just in case.
Texsport
divewizard
perspicaz
The widest non-fisheye lenses I know of are the 43mm for the Mamiya 7 and the 45mm for the Pentax 67.
Here is a recent photo I took with the Pentax 6x7 45mm F/4 lens on my Pentax 67II with Provia 400
©2012 Chris Grossman
Here is a recent photo I took with the Pentax 6x7 45mm F/4 lens on my Pentax 67II with Provia 400

©2012 Chris Grossman
thegman
Veteran
Hardly a medium format lens though (to go by the thread title)![]()
I shoot the 47mm 5.6 SA XL as a medium format lens on my Fotoman 69. Obviously it's not a typical MF camera, but highly suitable if you want a very wide lens on 6x9.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
I shoot the 47mm 5.6 SA XL as a medium format lens on my Fotoman 69. Obviously it's not a typical MF camera, but highly suitable if you want a very wide lens on 6x9.
Quite. It's an MF lens, and it's wide (about 21 mm equivalent on 35mm), but it's some way from the widest.
And the widest lens I know of for 6x9cm is the Rodenstock 5,6/35 Apo Grandagon. It's clearly wider than 45mm or 43mm, even on 6x7, and unlike the Mamiya lenses, it covers 6x9...
Cheers,
R.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Quite. It's an MF lens, and it's wide (about 21 mm equivalent on 35mm), but it's some way from the widest.
Well I've only shot it once and that was on 4x5" and there were even some reserves - so while it's certainly possible to stick a roll film holder behind it it's kind of hard for me to think of it as a medium format lens
P.
thegman
Veteran
Quite. It's an MF lens, and it's wide (about 21 mm equivalent on 35mm), but it's some way from the widest.
And the widest lens I know of for 6x9cm is the Rodenstock 5,6/35 Apo Grandagon. It's clearly wider than 45mm or 43mm, even on 6x7, and unlike the Mamiya lenses, it covers 6x9...
Cheers,
R.
Sounds like a very nice lens, I think for the moment the 47mm is wide enough for me, perhaps even too wide. The Fotoman makes quite a nice wannabe-Alpa, but only help the lusting a little.
Texsport
Well-known
I believe that if you get too wide, lens distortion decreases the artistic qualities of a photo.
Its the reason panoramic cameras exist.
Texsport
Its the reason panoramic cameras exist.
Texsport
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Texsport,I believe that if you get too wide, lens distortion decreases the artistic qualities of a photo.
Its the reason panoramic cameras exist.
Texsport
Not necessarily. It depends on the lens, and how you work with it. By 'panoramic' I assume you mean swing-lens or rotating-body cameras: I generally prefer wide-angle distortion to the 'bulging' perspective you get with these.
Cheers,
R.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
It's too wide for me, too, but Frances loves it: it's her standard lens on 6x9cm.Sounds like a very nice lens, I think for the moment the 47mm is wide enough for me, perhaps even too wide. The Fotoman makes quite a nice wannabe-Alpa, but only help the lusting a little.
Cheers,
R.
Texsport
Well-known
Dear Texsport,
Not necessarily. It depends on the lens, and how you work with it. By 'panoramic' I assume you mean swing-lens or rotating-body cameras: I generally prefer wide-angle distortion to the 'bulging' perspective you get with these.
Cheers,
R.
Naturally, there are not any absolutes when it comes to an individuals picture making abilities, but I was referring to 6x17 and 6x24 cameras.
Texsport
Thomas78
Well-known
Today I went to an old town (Lüneburg, Germany) with my Mamiya 6 to take some pictures of the old buildings.
I realised that in about 1/3 to 1/2 of the images I wished that I had a wider angel on the "long side" (which is equal to the short one in a square).
So either I stay at 24x36 mm and use a 21 or 28 mm lens (for architectural work) or I have to look for a lens/system mentioned here in this thread...
I realised that in about 1/3 to 1/2 of the images I wished that I had a wider angel on the "long side" (which is equal to the short one in a square).
So either I stay at 24x36 mm and use a 21 or 28 mm lens (for architectural work) or I have to look for a lens/system mentioned here in this thread...
Texsport
Well-known
Today I went to an old town (Lüneburg, Germany) with my Mamiya 6 to take some pictures of the old buildings.
I realised that in about 1/3 to 1/2 of the images I wished that I had a wider angel on the "long side" (which is equal to the short one in a square).
So either I stay at 24x36 mm and use a 21 or 28 mm lens (for architectural work) or I have to look for a lens/system mentioned here in this thread...
I know the feeling.
Now all you have to do is keep yourself from buying a camera for every likely situation.
I have been rather unsuccessful in that regard. It's lucky that I'm not making a living with my cameras, or I'd be in real trouble.
Good luck!
Texsport
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Today I went to an old town (Lüneburg, Germany) with my Mamiya 6 to take some pictures of the old buildings.
I realised that in about 1/3 to 1/2 of the images I wished that I had a wider angel on the "long side" (which is equal to the short one in a square).
For architecture I found a shift lens or a camera with movements just as helpful (in my case, a 90 on 4x5 and a 24 on 35mm format). When taking pictures of a building I'm usually not interested in the street surface in front of it, so it's usually just enough to shift the angle up.
The Mamiya 6 is of course useless for this, but if you already use another medium format camera system, you mght take a look if something like the 50/f4 for the Mamiya 645 or any of the various conversions (with or without tilt) of the Soviet 55/f3.5 shift lens for 6x6 systems does the job for you.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Today I went to an old town (Lüneburg, Germany) with my Mamiya 6 to take some pictures of the old buildings.
I realised that in about 1/3 to 1/2 of the images I wished that I had a wider angel on the "long side" (which is equal to the short one in a square).
So either I stay at 24x36 mm and use a 21 or 28 mm lens (for architectural work) or I have to look for a lens/system mentioned here in this thread...
The Plaubel 69W has a 47/5.6 Schnieder Super Augulon (Non XL), is a 21mm equiv, rise/fall, shift and is a 120 camera.
This might be a good camera for you. Only 8 shots per roll.
Cal
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