will you Buy/order the new Zeiss S mount

[rbsinto]

"The 5cm focal lenght (sic) is just perfect!!! One HAS to learn to appreciate it though...otherwise IT IS USELESS.
Kiu"

Kiu,
I certainly hope the omission of the qualifier "In my opinion" or "For the type of shooting I do" to your statement above was accidential, rather than by design.
Because claiming that a particular focal length is the solution to any or all shooting needs as you seem to be indicating in your reply is of course patently absurd.
Perfect? By whose standard? And for exactly what kind or kinds of photography? Try telling the sports photo-journalist that rather than shooting the Superbowl from the sideline or endzone with a 600 f4, that he learn to appreciate the 50mm lens, and use it instead. Similarly the landscape photographer who uses a wide or superwide lens or the micro photographer who uses a 200 f4 flatfield lens.
And more to the point Robert Sadoff, who after nearly 30 years of shooting (much or most of it on the streets) that his choice of wider or longer focal lengths than the 5cm is wrong (despite all that his experience has taught him) because someone else has found the True Path and it is the Perfect 5cm.
To reiterate, in my opinion, the 5cm lens is completely unsuitable for the type of shooting I do, and thus I won't be purchasing one for use on my rangefinder.

 

[migtex]

No.. I will not buy it.. unless is 500 or less I guess... a 35 1.8 must come first since I own so many (diferent generations) of 5cm 1.4....

 

[Tom A]

Migtex: thanks for the photo- It makes me feel better about my pile of Nikon's. What is it with these cameras that makes them multiply like the proverbial rabbits! I am particularly impressed with your collection of 50/1,4's - I think you have even more than I have (5 by the latest count). Like your Nikon S's too . It is a neat camera and built to last!

 

[NIKON KIU]

Kiu,
I certainly hope the omission of the qualifier "In my opinion" or "For the type of shooting I do" to your statement above was accidential, rather than by design.
Because claiming that a particular focal length is the solution to any or all shooting needs as you seem to be indicating in your reply is of course patently absurd.
Perfect? By whose standard? And for exactly what kind or kinds of photography? Try telling the sports photo-journalist that rather than shooting the Superbowl from the sideline or endzone with a 600 f4, that he learn to appreciate the 50mm lens, and use it instead. Similarly the landscape photographer who uses a wide or superwide lens or the micro photographer who uses a 200 f4 flatfield lens.
And more to the point Robert Sadoff, who after nearly 30 years of shooting (much or most of it on the streets) that his choice of wider or longer focal lengths than the 5cm is wrong (despite all that his experience has taught him) because someone else has found the True Path and it is the Perfect 5cm.
To reiterate, in my opinion, the 5cm lens is completely unsuitable for the type of shooting I do, and thus I won't be purchasing one for use on my rangefinder.

I too thought the 50mm was boring, not long enough, not wide enough...
Funny is most of us old timers learned using cameras with a normal, I remember back in the 70s just about all cameras were sold with a fifty.

I was so bored with the 50, back in the 80s, that I bought a 28mm Vivitar. I used that lens untill it broke, it was a lot more challenging to use a 28 compared to a 50

But the 50 is so simple, so fast, so elegant, so close to what we see.Makes you go closer or back up sometimes, but that makes me think about composition more.

Of course it's true that somtimes one can't back up enough or step forward, but that doesn't reduce the usefullness of the 50

I like to remind everyone, when I post a reply, it's strictly my opinion :bang:


Kiu

 

[migtex]

Migtex: thanks for the photo- It makes me feel better about my pile of Nikon's. What is it with these cameras that makes them multiply like the proverbial rabbits! I am particularly impressed with your collection of 50/1,4's - I think you have even more than I have (5 by the latest count). Like your Nikon S's too . It is a neat camera and built to last!

Mr. T-San I was hoping that the "rabbit thing" allowed the inter-exchange between the S's and the S2's plus some R2S gene to create a SP.... no such luck.. Still waiting! 😛

Thank you very much for your kindness but you are in fact the Lens Man not this poor soul that keeps drooling on your photos (and lens).

The Crocodile Dundee (nickname since it is real crocodile leather) is the most smooth of them and has been modified in a couple of things that I don't understand very well how"they" have been done it.😕
It works great with any lens I throw in.. even J 12's are sharp on it while they aren't on the others S/S2 (or even get mounted). The speeds selection is the other way around as a normal S and has a metallic (titanium?!) shutter foil too!
And it's Brass in some particular areas.🙂

 

[Tom A]

Hmm, your Dundee camera sounds like a project from Shintaro in Tokyo? It does look great. I have a dismantled S (it had taken a bath and is pretty solidly frozen) and I am thinking of either converting it to Leica screw-mount or raiding the focussing helicoil and adapt that to a M2 (once I get it unjammed). It would be interesting to have a dedicated 35mm focal length M2 with possibility to put 35/1,8 or 35/2,5 on it. Oh well, winter is coming and long rainy days so that would keep me busy.
I am also trying to figure out how to make the tall filmadvance "wheel" that Life photographers had custom ordered on their Nikon S's. The knurled knob on the S is quite difficult to get a grip on as it is.

 

[migtex]

I don't have any idea were it come from or who did Mr. T-San.
May be Mr. [SIZE=-1]Shintaro-San can confirm that one day.
The knob problem was solved with an Accura Rapid windwer. Simple, fast, and the same metal color!
Thank you for your enlight on the C.Dundee.
An M2 with real S-mount.... that will make me buy one!!
Have great Week-end!
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[migtex]

WOA! Great Info on the M-mounts! The first 2 should have a great base-lenght.
Thank you Master-San!

 

[Tom A]

I have looked at my "dead" S and I think I could turn a new shaft from steel stock. The biggest problem seems to be a functioning film counter as that would have to be incorporated in the taller knob.
As for a M or screw mount S, I would have to mill out a bit of the housing to "sink" the screw mount slightly. If I went for a M-mount it would almost fit without this as there is another millimeter to play with on that back focus.
The good thing is that the S body is extremely rugged and could take the adaptation. The focus arm would have to be "corrected" for the Leica lenses (i.e bent in a vise!). It all depends on how wet and grim the fall will be.

 

[Tom A]

Migtex,
I did put a shot of the equipment used for the Zeikon Project on our Flickr site, just for you.

Go to our Flickr site and the last shot is with Tuulikki's Ricoh GRD of 6 cameras and 12 lenses neatly arranged (all right, not so neatly arranged maybe) or
click at

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rapidwinder/sets/72157602037183358/

 

[migtex]

Mr. Tom-San
I'm speechless with such honor!

What a great Project final "family" shot!