With the X100, will you keep your M8? or pick up a used one?

[yanidel]

No distance scale on the lens -> I pass. M8/9 still rule.

 

[Jason Sprenger]

I'm hanging on to my M8.2 as a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush as they say. However, I will be checking out the finder and people's high ISO images.

The Leica finder is marginal for me since I've known the glory of the ZI finder. A finder comparable to the ZI in a dRF would be very compelling to me if the image quality generally meets or exceeds that of Canon or Nikon DSLR's for cameras with similar pixel count.

 

[kbg32]

"With the X100, will you keep your M8? or pick up a used one?"

I think I'll sell my M8 and pick up a used one.

Apologies, but I find this to be a silly thread. No one knows yet how the X100 will perform. Silly to compare a fixed lens camera to a camera that has interchangeable lenses.

 

[ampguy]

Can't imagine this replacing the M8, it would need no AA filter, film like B/W, IR sensitivity, and an M-mount lens.

It should kill off u4/3 though 😉

 

[ebino]

I have a feeling that X100 is just the beginning of a deluge of similar cameras hitting the market, and I won't be surprised that Sony will be the next to come up with a similar retro looking camera, because it seems Sony is being very aggressive to gain market share and they keep releasing many different types of camera to see which one will stick.

I don't know when Olympus Ep1 was released but suddenly it feels like such an outdated camera and even GF1... this digital camera market is really nasty.

 

[Sonnar Brian]

It should kill off u4/3 though 😉

Only if I can hack an M-Mount onto it and write the firmware for it to provide TTL focusing overlaid with the optical finder. Until then- I'm keeping the EP2's for use with a LOT of my lenses.

 

[mervynyan]

No distance scale on the lens -> I pass. M8/9 still rule.

Distance scale is implemented in the viewfinder, that is the screen shot I saw on the web. Of course, can't confirm until it is reviewed.

 

[blimey]

lol.. all these are white papers.. i havent seen one darn picture so speculate all you want. for the time being the M rules at the moment.

 

[Japan---Exposures]

Yeah, might pick up a used X100 one day from someone who realised too late that (once again) it was not a Leica substitute :angel:

 

[Roger Hicks]

Actually, my thinking and question wasn't that the X100 would or could in any way replace the M8, but rather that the announcement of the X100 seems to presage the release in the not-so-distant future of a moderately-priced digital body for M-mount lenses. The X100 changes the waiting game that many of us are playing for various reasons.

I noticed soon after the X100 created a storm here that the head bartender started a poll on how much digital people here use.

Seems to me highly plausible that Cosina is getting ready to cooperate with somebody on a dRF-type project, the two most likely candidates being Zeiss and Fuji.

What the X100 changes, like Mervyn above says, is the waiting game.

No.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Paul T.]

The X100 will change things - if it sells a lot. It will be a prime example of how a niche manufacturer can challenge the duopoly.

But sadly I've a feeling any of the contenders are unlikely to stock with legacy lenses; Leica had a financial incentive to do so, as there is such a big user base. Any other designers of, say, an interchangeable lens compact camera, is likely to introduce it with a set of new lenses, as did the X Pan or Contax G2.

 

[Paul T.]

Roger, did you get a sense of what other manufacturers thought of the X100?

Did they seem to think it's simply a niche product aimed at a few rff old farts, or were they all kicking themselves for not thinking of it? OR were they too busy trying to pick up the glamor dolls posing with cameras on the stands?

 

[Ronald M]

After the first peice of crud ends up on the sensor, you will be very unhappy. If you think this does not happened to sealed cameras, think again.

 

[Roger Hicks]

Roger, did you get a sense of what other manufacturers thought of the X100?

Did they seem to think it's simply a niche product aimed at a few rff old farts, or were they all kicking themselves for not thinking of it? OR were they too busy trying to pick up the glamor dolls posing with cameras on the stands?

Manufacturers' representatives (on the stands) seem to know astonishingly little about each others' products. But cameras are a comparatively small part of what photokina is about anyway. Also, among people who know anything about the industry, you tend not to get the hysterical rush to judgement that you get on the internet. Certainly, no other manufacturers seemed excited one way or the other, and indeed, although the general press reaction was 'I'd like one', no one seemed to be frothing at the mouth to get one.

There are quite a lot of these 'high end' cameras, from Leica, Ricoh and others, and no-one is confident that they have found the One True Path.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Paul T.]

Ah. SO they were too busy with the glamor dolls...

 

[Roger Hicks]

Ah. SO they were too busy with the glamor dolls...

Dear Paul,

Doubt it. Dolly-birds are such a fixture at trade shows that hardly anyone takes any notice of them; they're part of the furniture.

Cheers,

R.

 

[cam]

Ah. SO they were too busy with the glamor dolls...

too busy working their @$$es of, as was Roger.

trade shows are rough!

 

[noimmunity]

Not sure what the "no" applies to, but...

...I do recall how you (among many others) kept repeating until last summer the mantra that FF dRF was impossible.

No.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Damaso]

I will keep my M8. If it had interchangeable lenses I might think about it....

 

[Roger Hicks]

Not sure what the "no" applies to, but...

...I do recall how you (among many others) kept repeating until last summer the mantra that FF dRF was impossible.

No you don't. Since the M8 came out I said it would come eventually (which was exactly what Leica said too). It is impossible using a DSLR sensor with decent image quality, but that hasn't changed either.

Cheers,

R.