Would you take yours to Afghanistan for 6 months?

Damn man, not only would I take it, I'd get another to make sure I had a backup! I'd absolutely take it, some ziplocks, and a very inconspicuous bag. Something that isn't a camera bag, or at least doesn't look like one. I use a small Domke satchel - fits an m6/35, m3/50, and a 25 + notebook, film, my meter, a couple batteries, and my 21 and 75 if I feel like stacking lenses - while looking more like a regular satchel than a camera bag.
 
If you're a Westerner, I think dust will be the least of your worries. I think living to see the next day would be concern No. 1.
 
Lots of folks that I work with (i.e., civilians) have volunteered for duty in Afghanistan, and found it to be a very rewarding experience. Yes, it is a dangerous place, but not everyone who serves there is necesarily in danger from day to day. However, there are certain areas or tasks that are more dangerous than others.

WRT cameras, take your leica and lots of film, and document your photos to the extent possible.
 
My answer is NO, although my asia face may be safer there. Actually last week I had a chance to Israel. My company has a project there. But I said NO to the manager that I don;t want my family worry about me.

I admit Israel is very attractive to me..but I am a family man....
 
Use a camels hair brush to dust off the camera instead of using canned air to blow the dust into the camera. I was in Somalia and used the brush method with no problems. Others used the canned air method and you could hear the fine sand binding up lenses, aperture rings, and. . .
 
Expendable?

Expendable?

Thanks for all the great responses! Pertaining the last question, I do own the camera, but if I had to sacrifice a system, Id rather let my trusty Nikon EM give up the ghost. My M6 and FM3A are my usual sidekicks, the M6 only lacks for lenses but thats being worked. Like I mentioned before, Ive been to A-stan previously and recall all to well the "moon dust" that pretty much infiltrates anything mechanical. That being said I am going to be better off than your average "tourist" when it comes to accomodations, so the dust isnt as bad as it could be. Im still weighing the pros and cons of this, I mean I did just have it CLA'd and hate to think its going to sit for 6 months (oh yeah, its got 5 months left on its warranty, so if it does die, maybe thats ok too?).

Ill probably take it, I think Id regret it if I didnt.
 
Ive got a freshly CLA'd M6, decent glass (50 F2 summi, 28 F2 Voit, 135 tele) and will be spending Nov-May in Kabul. Id like to take the Leica, but am worried about all the dust. Your thoughts?

I've not been there, but if I were; the Leica would be the first thing I would take. Isn't that what they are for?
 
Athena said:
Why do you own the camera? If you are willing to a war zone - why wouldn't you take your best gear? After all, that's what Capa did!

One war too many for Capa, he stepped on a landmine...

Don't want to talk about cameras. I think if you are willing to risk your life, cameras are least of your concerns. It is serious business in the war zone. If you are with a western agency, get a bullet-proof vest first.

Really hope you have a safe journey, godspeed...
 
I would recomend you look for say a CV 15/4.5 and a fast 85 or 90 and your lens kit is complete.

To mess with your mind, what about getting a Bessa L and a CV 25/4 as your carry everywhere camera. 28/2 is a large lens to put in your pocket, were as the L/25 combo fits in cargo pockets and does not stick out too bad. Another crazy option would be to get a Bessa T with a CV 25/4 as your carry everywhere camera. Pick up a multifinder and you have a great backup or bad weather camera. A T gets wet and you've lost $185 USD worst case.

I moved to Bessas about 8 years ago as I did not want to use my Leicas with young children (expensive to replace) and have come to love the lenses and like the cameras. Never had an accident. Now that my 10 year old has a perminate Bessa R loaner from me (I forgot to bring it today to my other sons game, so he took my F2AS/180 combo from me, ugh), I'm going back to my Ms.

B2 (;->
 
Its been said, but take it. Or rather take whatever will allow you to take the images you'll want and stand the conditions.
Personally, I'd treat the gear as semi- expendable if that's what it takes!
 
ditto

ditto

colyn said:
I carried 2 M3's for 14 months in Vietnam with no problems.
You should however take some zip-lock bags to keep it in when not using or during times of dust.

2 tours in the Nam, 71 & 72, with 2 USN M2 kits, and my own Nikon SLR kit. No problem except the crazies trying to kil me.

As Norman Hatch USMC WWII Combat Photographer said- 'The brave ones were shooting the enemy. The crazy ones were shooting film.'

If you are a Military photog, welcome to the club, if not, good luck.
 
Yes, without a second thought. A flak jacket would also be on my wish list, along with a bucket load of good luck and a face that did not mark me out from the locals!

For some great work with an M camera in Afganistan see Tomas Munita's site - http://www.tomasmunita.com/ he won the Oskar Barnack prie this yr for his work there.

C
 
/lurk

/lurk

I've been using a Praktica SLR for almost a year in Iraq now. From damp, muddy conditions through nasty dust storms. So far all the advice about taking it is spot on: Ziploc bags a must, camel hair brush (I also use canned air after brushing), lens cleaning stuffs.
Packing my gear I used Jack Wolfskin and Lowepro lens cases and a generic padded camera case. If I'm not using them in the immediate fututre, I kept them in gallon-size ziplocs.
 
Trusty Nikon EM?? Take the FM3a and the Leica,better have back-up, and while you're at it take some long lenses for the SLR...sounds like you been there and done that!
Leica M6 is no big deal...its not like you're taking a black M3
I think the main worry is to make sure the camera doesn't get stolen.
My answer is NO, although my asia face may be safer there. Actually last week I had a chance to Israel. My company has a project there. But I said NO to the manager that I don;t want my family worry about me.
Are you telling him not to go?
Israel is one of the safest places in the world!! the security is beyond imagination of most Americans.


Kiu
 
A curious question with little contextual information. You’ve been there, thus you know the circumstances. You’ve admitted you’ll be put up well, but have avoided responding regarding your assignment, role or organization. Photography in these locations is a moving algorithm of access, proximity, exposure and risk. Tell us, if you can, what control you may or may not have over many of these factors.

If you’re official, you’ll be in armored hard cars, the major drawback of which is that most have sealed windows. You’ll see the best photo prospects through glass passing through areas you are not allowed to hang about. I might think the real decisions have to do with lens reach, as only you know just how close you’ll be allowed to get/be with your subjects or how much time you'll have to just hang.

Tell us a bit more of how you will actually spend those 6 months.

I’m across the border, based in Peshawar, building roads and border security outposts in the FATA tribal areas along the Afghan border. General circumstances are not dissimilar. I carry a mix of M’s (M6 & M7), 2 CLEs and a IIIa, although never all at once.

Given large international presence in Kabul, film may be available. OTOH, only low-end commercial crap is available on my side of the border. Best to arrange your own supply, keeping in mind suggestions to get it shipped in. Beware that official pouch shipments are both x-rayed and heat zapped (to neutralize anthrax, etc), so are bad choices for film.

The suggestion of heavy-duty ziplocks is generally useful. Equally important is to stay alert to fast temperature changes for your equipment moving in and out of A/C (or heated, as winter comes on) cars. The fogging sucks dust into lenses and bodies, especially into areas you cannot reach with either brush or blasters. Watch where you put your equipment while traveling (inside the cars) to minimize direct blasts from a/c or heater.

Given what you already know about both situation and your role in it, take the gear that will serve you best. Then, come back and tell us all about it. Good luck.

Owen
 
If the man wanted to tell us more he would have!
I do appreciate you telling us about your assignment.
for your folks that are unfamiliar, Kabul is a city of over 1 million residents,,,a big city...of course film is available but the man didn't ask about film did he?
I doubt if he tells us anymore! I do like to see some pictures down the road.
Kiu
 
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