Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
This thread is a joke surely?
'You've insulted my favorite camera so now I'm going to insult yours!'
Some of the energy that gets put into mud slinging around here amazes me!
'You've insulted my favorite camera so now I'm going to insult yours!'
Some of the energy that gets put into mud slinging around here amazes me!
FrankS
Registered User
Agreed. This thread has drifted off topic and belongs in another sub-forum.
seakayaker1
Well-known
With the clear majority of photographers world wide shooting DSLR, P&S, or using the camera on their smartphone, or now their IPADs, I don't find it surprising that a biased response might appear on a photography website that is not rangefinder oriented.
I just returned from a 2 1/2 hours stroll with Peggy through the Kubota garden in south Seattle. Everybody except a few couples strolling through the gardens were using a camera of some type. There were a couple of small groups of people where everyone was using a camera. One things I am sure about, of all the people I observed during the walk, I was the only one using a Leica M camera.
I have read DP reviews but have never read through many of the threads. As someone mentioned above they have a different approach in their discussions.
Certainly the folks over here at RFF are a heck of a lot nicer.
I just returned from a 2 1/2 hours stroll with Peggy through the Kubota garden in south Seattle. Everybody except a few couples strolling through the gardens were using a camera of some type. There were a couple of small groups of people where everyone was using a camera. One things I am sure about, of all the people I observed during the walk, I was the only one using a Leica M camera.
I have read DP reviews but have never read through many of the threads. As someone mentioned above they have a different approach in their discussions.
Certainly the folks over here at RFF are a heck of a lot nicer.
TXForester
Well-known
Yeah, but real kabuki is more entertaining than internet fights.It's all kabuki.
This why I don't post on dpreview anymore. I'll go there to look up specs and other non-subjective information info on a camera.
If somebody can afford it and it makes them happy, then buy a Leica. If somebody doesn't like my camera, it says more about their failings than it says about me.
redisburning
Well-known
it just means less people to drive up the used price.
I do find it funny, though, that many who would call a Leica a snob camera have lenses with a red/gold ring on them just so that everyone knows you spent the "big bucks" on your gear.
I do find it funny, though, that many who would call a Leica a snob camera have lenses with a red/gold ring on them just so that everyone knows you spent the "big bucks" on your gear.
N
Nikon Bob
Guest
Another here who doesn't mind DP Reviews but stays clear of their forums. I can't really understand getting all bitter and twisted about what some say about a camera. This thread has been entertaining in a sandbox fight sorta way from some of the posts.
Bob
Bob
gdi
Veteran
Wow, all of Canon were upset because you didn't like their camera. Impressive.
Jeff
Of course Canon would want positive reactions from any influential members of the photographic press; you can be sure they would have preferred one from Roger that day.
Lss
Well-known
In someone else's hands or in yours? You only ever need to consider the latter.there are much cheaper devices producing better image quality than the M9.
hteasley
Pupil
Yeah, but real kabuki is more entertaining than internet fights.![]()
Too true.
As a silly aside, YouTube got a *lot* more bearable to visit when I installed Herp Derp YouTube, from http://www.tannr.com/herp-derp-youtube-comments/ . All the inane comments (and YouTube is, by far, the worst site on the internet as far as stupid comments go) get transformed into "herp derp": every comment section goes from a soul-crushing story of Man's inhumanity to Man, to a pleasantly surreal non-sequitur.
I'd love it if it worked for dpreview.com, too.
Lss
Well-known
I mean that just use whatever works best for you, and don't worry about other people's needs because they will be different than yours.No sure what you mean.
I don't have an M9 to shoot, but I would love to do this experiment. Not sure why I would need to get back to you about it, though.Shoot over ISO 400 with an M9 and any full-frame camera available at the time of the M9's release (in anyone's hands), compare the output and get back to me.
Paul Luscher
Well-known
Slagging Leica is an age-old sport, it seems. Dunno how much of it is "sour grapes" because they can't afford one, and how much of it is what might be called reverse snob appeal.
But it's also a trend I note whenever a new camera comes out....sooner or later there will be a whole bunch of posts bitching about how they got their hands on the camera, and what a POS it is because of this, of that, etc.,etc......
Saw it with the Zeiss Ikon. Waiting for it with the XP1..and with the EM-5...
But it's also a trend I note whenever a new camera comes out....sooner or later there will be a whole bunch of posts bitching about how they got their hands on the camera, and what a POS it is because of this, of that, etc.,etc......
Saw it with the Zeiss Ikon. Waiting for it with the XP1..and with the EM-5...
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Some people (including many on DPR) just don't get that a certain segment of photographers are completely happy with the spartan feature set that a Leica RF provides. Trying to change their attitudes is roughly akin to teaching beets to sing…
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
As already noted, there is a subtle irony to some of the posts in this thread - there's a undercurrent of scorn for certain digital systems here at RFF. (Nikon 1, anyone?) Pot, meet kettle.
Paul Luscher
Well-known
No sure what you mean. Shoot over ISO 400 with an M9 and any full-frame camera available at the time of the M9's release (in anyone's hands), compare the output and get back to me. No amount of of magic-Solms pixie dust is gonna make that file any cleaner.
ETA: My "Canikon D whatever" told me to say this, I can't be held responsible since the darned thing does all my thinking for me.
Dunno what that "Canikon" means. Shoot my M9 at 1600 a whole lot, and I'm pretty happy with the results. Images compare favorably with those out of my DSLR...and in certain aspects are a little better. Guess it's just a case of beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Of course, everybody knows the lightest, quietest, most discreet camera is...a cell phone. So, time to unload the Leica gear and get an iPhone.....
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