x-e1...what a sweet camera

i do use the evf often...and the rear lcd also...the ovf is nice to have but i think i could live w/o it...though it's cool to watch it when i zoom...
 
Joe, I found your comments on the LCD interesting. I fell in love with Live View when I got my EP1. I feel like I compose better using it. I like my XP1 so well that I am thinking of selling off the Leica and using it exclusively. S
 
stompyq said:
So the issues with raw processing is not as serious? I'am really confused about the water color effect that the tech forums are abuzz about. This is the primary reason i'am holding off buying one and considering the sony NEX-6. I'am very luke warm towards the sony because of how weak the lens line up is (including the road map which seem to have a lot of slow zooms)
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There is no problem. The nature of the sensor means that at 4 million percent magnification very very fine details in like colors (like green foliage) can look a bit soupy. You would never see this unless you zoomed up to 4 million percent on a computer screen. You would never see this in a print. The other qualities of this sensor make this tradeoff well worth it - it's wonderfully sensitive to certain colors and shades, it has next to no color noise, and it's so smooth and dynamic that it puts it in it's own class.

I have about 1000 raw files from the x-pro1 in lightroom right now, and the aforementioned 'problems' don't manifest in any of them. It's simply internet rubbish.
 
gavinlg said:
There is no problem. The nature of the sensor means that at 4 million percent magnification very very fine details in like colors (like green foliage) can look a bit soupy. You would never see this unless you zoomed up to 4 million percent on a computer screen. You would never see this in a print. The other qualities of this sensor make this tradeoff well worth it - it's wonderfully sensitive to certain colors and shades, it has next to no color noise, and it's so smooth and dynamic that it puts it in it's own class.

I have about 1000 raw files from the x-pro1 in lightroom right now, and the aforementioned 'problems' don't manifest in any of them. It's simply internet rubbish.
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Thanks Gavin. Got my XE-1 yesterday and have shot around the house and I think i agree with you. Looking at the files i don't see too many issues. I also don't understand the issue about the files being slow to open in lightroom? Mine open just the same as every other raw file (NEF and oly raw). I think I need to stay away from dpreview.
 
gavinlg said:
There is no problem. The nature of the sensor means that at 4 million percent magnification very very fine details in like colors (like green foliage) can look a bit soupy. You would never see this unless you zoomed up to 4 million percent on a computer screen. You would never see this in a print. The other qualities of this sensor make this tradeoff well worth it - it's wonderfully sensitive to certain colors and shades, it has next to no color noise, and it's so smooth and dynamic that it puts it in it's own class.

I have about 1000 raw files from the x-pro1 in lightroom right now, and the aforementioned 'problems' don't manifest in any of them. It's simply internet rubbish.
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I basically agree with this. It is important to not use the default LR raw rendering parmeters for sharpening, clarity and defringing. I found I had to adjust my raw rendering methods to get the most from LR and the X-Trans sensor. I do feel Adobe's next generation algorithms will be better.
 
I had my first play with the XE1 earlier today. I had been holding out on my XPro1 purchase until the XE had arrived but the free lens offer persuaded me otherwise. If the Pro had never existed I would say the XE1 is indeed sweet and lovely but I couldn't muster the enthusiasm for it the Pro inspired sadly. It just didn't seem as magical to me as I thought it should. Overall I think I have made the right choice which makes me relieved my purchase was right one for me despite not having the comparison option a month ago.
 
koven said:
Great pic

I just dont like the look of the xe1
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Well, that makes one of us. I think it's better looking than any other interchangeable lens mirrorless digital camera, including the bloated Leicas.

With one exception: the RD-1.
 
It looks better in the flesh than on pictures too. But it's what it does that matters.
 
I have been experimenting with 'film simulation bracketing' in the Drive menu. I have the camera set to Raw as the primary quality setting, then set the bracketing as (1) Std, (2) monochrome + yellow filter, (3) monochrome + green filter. When I shoot with film simulation bracketing the result is a set of 3 Large-Fine jpg's which add about a second to the shot-to-shot timing.

This is a very attractive option, although I am a sworn raw shooter. It gives you the choice of high quality colour or BW. The BW images are really lovely:

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This was with the yellow filter, with a bit of clarity and film grain added in LR. Really lovely tonal gradations on the car to the right.

Also, I set the highlight and shadow tone to -2, as Bill Pierce suggests in another post.

Worth exploring.

Kirk
 
KEH said:
I have been experimenting with 'film simulation bracketing' in the Drive menu. I have the camera set to Raw as the primary quality setting, then set the bracketing as (1) Std, (2) monochrome + yellow filter, (3) monochrome + green filter. When I shoot with film simulation bracketing the result is a set of 3 Large-Fine jpg's which add about a second to the shot-to-shot timing.

This is a very attractive option, although I am a sworn raw shooter. It gives you the choice of high quality colour or BW. The BW images are really lovely:

U1632I1355611147.SEQ.0.jpg


This was with the yellow filter, with a bit of clarity and film grain added in LR. Really lovely tonal gradations on the car to the right.

Also, I set the highlight and shadow tone to -2, as Roger Hicks suggests in another post.

Worth exploring.

Kirk
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i like the look of that...
 
KEH said:
I have been experimenting with 'film simulation bracketing' in the Drive menu. I have the camera set to Raw as the primary quality setting, then set the bracketing as (1) Std, (2) monochrome + yellow filter, (3) monochrome + green filter. When I shoot with film simulation bracketing the result is a set of 3 Large-Fine jpg's which add about a second to the shot-to-shot timing.

Kirk
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That's curious. Which camera?
In my experience with film simulation bracketing on the XE1 with the camera set to RAW+ fine what I get is the same shot saved in the three selected film styles as jpg only. No accompanying RAW file. No shot-to-shot timing.
 
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