X100 Shutter Lag video?

[aldenfender]

Just wondering if any one has seen this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhkaHDMkzTo


There seems to be concern whether this is just an issue with a pre production x100 or if this shutter lag will be a trait of the x100s that will be sold to the public.

Does this seem like a lag to any one here? I am fairly interested in buying this camera, though if there is any type of point and shoot shutter lag its not for me.

Thanks for looking.

 

[_larky]

Lag looks minimal to me. But until it's out and we get to test it, who knows.

 

[RayPA]

Does this seem like a lag to any one here? I am fairly interested in buying this camera, though if there is any type of point and shoot shutter lag its not for me.

Thanks for looking.

I'm "fairly interested in buying this camera" too. The real test would be AF + shutter lag + processing time, and it better be quick, otherwise I'm sticking with my MFT + 20/1.7.





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[Arjay]

This video has already been discussed in another thread. The consensus was that it doesn't show any autofocus action, because the lens isn't moving. The only (IMO minimal) visible lag is the time needed to close the aperture blades.

 

[ZlatkoBatistich]

It looks as if there is no real lag for the first 4 or 5 clicks, and then the camera starts to slow down a bit, as if the buffer needs more time to clear.

 

[Phil_F_NM]

They show both views from two different angles and the first 5 clicks I think are just aperture closing down. Then They get to the aperture + shutter action and there is a definite lag. You can see that there is a rhythm to it, a kind of ba-da-bump. I notice three stages during the shutter button actuation and I'll just say that it's no Konica Hexar AF. That thing had a tiny amount of lag but it was much faster than the pre-production Fuji here.
Still a cool camera but probably on par with most of the other fixed lens point and shoots below this price point if that's the way the shutter is going to react.

Phil Forrest

 

[ZlatkoBatistich]

On 2nd look, you're right. Those first few were just half presses, just aperture. Yes, it looks a bit laggy now.

 

[Spyro]

question: is this EVF or OVF mode? Because in OVF mode you dont see through the lens, hence there is no reason to close down the aperture at the last minute before exposure, it can be permanently set to the selected aperture like in a rangefinder. If it is OVF mode I dont know why the camera keeps the aperture open till the last minute.

 

[Spyro]

answer: it is in EVF mode, the viewfinder window is closed.
There is still hope 🙂
(Because, to be honest, the shutter lag on the video is a bit lame)

 

[_larky]

Oh dear, I see it now. Yes, looks laggy, my bigest fear. But, this is not a production model and we aren't holding it and testing it ourselves so... I guess when we get the phone call to say it's in we just need to try it out, hopefully the shops will have a demo model we can take onto the street.

Any lag and I'm not buying. But I'm hopeful that because I shoot OVF and manual focus lag will be minimal.

 

[gavinlg]

It's not laggy. It's like any camera - if you just slam the shutter down it has a process of things it needs to do like AF->meter->stop down->open/close shutter.

These cameras are operated by half pressing the shutter which primes the camera for taking a photo. You can't AF, meter or lock AE or anything without the half press. When the shutter is half pressed, and then pressed down further the shutter lag is practically nothing - same as DSLRs etc.

 

[Spyro]

fdigital you are talking AF, we are not. When a camera is manually focused there should be no delay when pressing the shutter, half press or no half press, the delay must be zero or so close to zero that is imperceptible by naked eye. Meter, stop down,close shutter = zero. There are $400 p&s's that can do it, LX3, Ricoh GRDiii, s90, so people expect nothing less from a $1,200 cam.

 

[Paul T.]

fdigital you are talking AF, we are not. When a camera is manually focused there should be no delay when pressing the shutter, half press or no half press, the delay must be zero or so close to zero that is imperceptible by naked eye. Meter, stop down,close shutter = zero. There are $400 p&s's that can do it, LX3, Ricoh GRDiii, s90, so people expect nothing less from a $1,200 cam.

Sure, but I don't think the video is telling us that.
My Hexar AF is lightning-fast, both in terms of focusing and shutter delay - but if you just press the shutter, without pressing it halfway first, it's slow. The most crucial delay in the Fuji is doubtless the AF. I hope we get to see how it actually operates soon.

 

[Spyro]

My Hexar AF is lightning-fast, both in terms of focusing and shutter delay - but if you just press the shutter, without pressing it halfway first, it's slow.

I am talking about manual focus...

the only 2 serious cameras I know that have shutter lag AFTER MANUAL FOCUS are the Contax G and the Nikon Ti. The Hexar AF is definitely not one of them.

I dont know if this video shows AF or MF.

 

[Paul T.]

I dont know if this video shows AF or MF.

I agree this video tells us very little. I have no problem with a bit of marketing spiel, but it would be great to have some real information about how the camera performs in the hand - they must surely have finalised the firmware by now.

 

[gavinlg]

Fujifilm is claiming 10ms shutterlag. Compared to something like the d700 which is 40ms.

 

[gavinlg]

fdigital you are talking AF, we are not. When a camera is manually focused there should be no delay when pressing the shutter, half press or no half press, the delay must be zero or so close to zero that is imperceptible by naked eye. Meter, stop down,close shutter = zero. There are $400 p&s's that can do it, LX3, Ricoh GRDiii, s90, so people expect nothing less from a $1,200 cam.

The problem is, you don't know the parameters used in that video. It could have an AF on thing with the priority set to achieving AF before allowing the release of the shutter. Most cameras come set up this way standard. You can change them to release priority instead.

 

[jsrockit]

It's not laggy. It's like any camera - if you just slam the shutter down it has a process of things it needs to do like AF->meter->stop down->open/close shutter.

These cameras are operated by half pressing the shutter which primes the camera for taking a photo. You can't AF, meter or lock AE or anything without the half press. When the shutter is half pressed, and then pressed down further the shutter lag is practically nothing - same as DSLRs etc.

I agree with this and it is clear in the video.