Paul Jenkin
Well-known
Thanks guys. I think I'll stick with the X100. I have an X-Pro1 if I want anything with interchangeable lenses or more pixels, so stumping up a load of extra cash doesn't seem like a sensible option right now. Ultimately, I really like the photos I get from the X100 and that's what really counts....
taemo
eat sleep shoot
Yesterday I met my buddy for coffee and he brought his X100S w/ fw 1.20 and I had my X100 w/ fw 2.10
I was comparing the single AF speed of both cameras and to me, both were equally as quick, my X100 actually felt a little bit faster too but obviously none of the 2 can beat the speed of the X100T
I was comparing the single AF speed of both cameras and to me, both were equally as quick, my X100 actually felt a little bit faster too but obviously none of the 2 can beat the speed of the X100T
Jdi
Established
After taking a pass on the X100S, I upgraded to the T. It was an emotionally trying decision.
Pros: better build quality, a touch wider makes it feel a lot more substantial in hand, everything works and works very well, controls very close to my XT1 and the best control set of any of the 4 X cameras I've had.
Performance: really good low light focusing without the assist light. Way better than the X100 which I found is better than the X100S. Depending on lens, as good or better than my D800. This was important to me.
XTrans verus Bayer: I like XTrans for the raws. I prefer the jpeg output of the X100 both at reasonable and high iso's. At high iso, I find the X100T jpeg's unusable with NR at -2. The Classic Chrome was a delightful surprise. Went from Provia to CC as my default.
Other: processing, start, wake times about the same as the X100, don't see any difference. My eye sensor takes a bit longer to activate than any of my 3 other Fuji's. Sent it back to Fuji and they said it was "in spec". They also said it was the same as 3 other T's they compared it to but slower than the S. Something I'm not pleased about but may not be specific to my copy. Manual focusing good enough that I've added a Shapeways focus ring assist. Other new features meant nothing to me. Wifi is more of a hassle than simply popping out the card.
X100 resale: I got $400 for mine within hours of listing. Not too bad. Basic camera with a <$40 leather strap thrown in.
Pros: better build quality, a touch wider makes it feel a lot more substantial in hand, everything works and works very well, controls very close to my XT1 and the best control set of any of the 4 X cameras I've had.
Performance: really good low light focusing without the assist light. Way better than the X100 which I found is better than the X100S. Depending on lens, as good or better than my D800. This was important to me.
XTrans verus Bayer: I like XTrans for the raws. I prefer the jpeg output of the X100 both at reasonable and high iso's. At high iso, I find the X100T jpeg's unusable with NR at -2. The Classic Chrome was a delightful surprise. Went from Provia to CC as my default.
Other: processing, start, wake times about the same as the X100, don't see any difference. My eye sensor takes a bit longer to activate than any of my 3 other Fuji's. Sent it back to Fuji and they said it was "in spec". They also said it was the same as 3 other T's they compared it to but slower than the S. Something I'm not pleased about but may not be specific to my copy. Manual focusing good enough that I've added a Shapeways focus ring assist. Other new features meant nothing to me. Wifi is more of a hassle than simply popping out the card.
X100 resale: I got $400 for mine within hours of listing. Not too bad. Basic camera with a <$40 leather strap thrown in.
No, I'm in Regulation... you don't get paid like that to enforce rules.
Out to Lunch
Ventor
When I read the marketeers propaganda I am tempted to upgrade. When I look at the photos I took with the X-100, I am perfectly happy with the results.
TKH
Well-known
fberna
Member
I feel that the X100 does everything I need. Once used to it AF and MF are more than acceptable.
Low light performance is also more than enough to me and if ever I get into high ISO situation I really don't mind some minor noise.
Like every piece of hardware it has its glitches, plus and minus. Marketing guys would like us to change tools every three months.
Surely, technology advances and new machines will have something more and better all the time. The question is if what we have is enough for us.
Or if what we have in terms of machine is not already better than our capabilities....
I don't think I will ever sell the X100
Low light performance is also more than enough to me and if ever I get into high ISO situation I really don't mind some minor noise.
Like every piece of hardware it has its glitches, plus and minus. Marketing guys would like us to change tools every three months.
Surely, technology advances and new machines will have something more and better all the time. The question is if what we have is enough for us.
Or if what we have in terms of machine is not already better than our capabilities....
I don't think I will ever sell the X100
ulysses.o
Established
just got this camera! so excited to start shooting!!
got something planned for the weekend! excited to share
it came with a brown case tho kinda really wanted black!
anyone up for trades!? haha
got something planned for the weekend! excited to share
it came with a brown case tho kinda really wanted black!
anyone up for trades!? haha
ktmrider
Well-known
I just saw the comment on the West Highland Way. Well, I just got the M9 back from Leica, NJ, and they replaced the sensor. I am off to Guatemala next month for intensive Spanish but will have the weekends free. Everyone warns of the problem of theft so I will leave the M9 at home and will be taking the X100 and Blad 500cm- They are so different that the entire photography spectrum will be covered.
The X100 won all sorts of awards a few years ago and still does in my opinion. Do not see any reason to upgrade but my favorite camera is a 1958 M2 (go figure).
The X100 won all sorts of awards a few years ago and still does in my opinion. Do not see any reason to upgrade but my favorite camera is a 1958 M2 (go figure).
Shab
Veteran
The X100 is the best digital camera I have ever had but when I see the X100T I'm so tempted...
Then I take my X100 and shot some pictures and when I see those at the PC I smile... someday I will buy an X100T, surely, but at the moment I will enjoy with the classic one.
Then I take my X100 and shot some pictures and when I see those at the PC I smile... someday I will buy an X100T, surely, but at the moment I will enjoy with the classic one.
zwarte_kat
Well-known
I own the X100 and was looking at the X100T in the store today. Here are just some observations as why I would consider it, as my usage is similar to the OP's:
- USB charging. This is for me a big one and fits well with the usage of this camera. When travelling or just going about your day, you don't need to bring the (odd) charger, you can simply charge with a usb cable. You can also use the same external batteries as for your smartphone to charge it in your bag.
- From what I heard longer battery life.
- Not only faster focus, but this new screen patch in the finder makes it easier to check if the focus is correct. This makes the optical viewfinder much more usable which makes shooting more fun. I didn't expect to find that patch so useful until I tried. I shot an event with the X100 the other day and kept checking if it nailed focus just in case after each shot, I wouldn't do that with the T.
- Easier to switch to macro mode, one click less
- WIFI, share images faster, though I haven't tried it out (in the store)
I'm keeping my original X100 for now, but I definitely see the benefits of the T. Maybe when the (2nd hand) price lowers I'll get one.
If you only shoot JPEG, Then Classic Chrome, more mega pixels, and better ISO sensitivity seem like welcome additions. You could travel with this cam and a tablet. Transfer the images over wifi and upload them to dropbox/google drive. Charge both devices with a double usb charger at night, and a small external battery with 2 usb ports during the day.
- USB charging. This is for me a big one and fits well with the usage of this camera. When travelling or just going about your day, you don't need to bring the (odd) charger, you can simply charge with a usb cable. You can also use the same external batteries as for your smartphone to charge it in your bag.
- From what I heard longer battery life.
- Not only faster focus, but this new screen patch in the finder makes it easier to check if the focus is correct. This makes the optical viewfinder much more usable which makes shooting more fun. I didn't expect to find that patch so useful until I tried. I shot an event with the X100 the other day and kept checking if it nailed focus just in case after each shot, I wouldn't do that with the T.
- Easier to switch to macro mode, one click less
- WIFI, share images faster, though I haven't tried it out (in the store)
I'm keeping my original X100 for now, but I definitely see the benefits of the T. Maybe when the (2nd hand) price lowers I'll get one.
If you only shoot JPEG, Then Classic Chrome, more mega pixels, and better ISO sensitivity seem like welcome additions. You could travel with this cam and a tablet. Transfer the images over wifi and upload them to dropbox/google drive. Charge both devices with a double usb charger at night, and a small external battery with 2 usb ports during the day.
lxmike
M2 fan.
I have a X Pro 1 and its in mint condition why well the x100 goes everywhere and l'm more than happy, do l need an x100T probably not but when my X100 dies l will eventually replace it with an X100T
trisberg
Established
I just got my X100T and pretty happy so far. This should be my main digital for now with the wide and tele conversion lenses. I was happy with my X100 but there are some things I like about the improvements in the X100T. Here are my impressions comparing the X100 with the 2.10 firmware and my new X100T.
IQ:
- 4 additional megapixels gives a bit more resolution, less noise at high ISO
- CMOS vs X-Trans, not sure yet, colors look different
- One example using OOC JPEGs with exposure adjustment in LightRoom -
X100T: http://thomasrisberg.com/Fujifilm/DSCF0018.JPG
X100: http://thomasrisberg.com/Fujifilm/DSCF8306.JPG
Physical Controls:
- M/C/S focus mode slider is much better
- Focus ring has better grip now
- Exposure comp wheel has extra stop and is stiffer which should help it stay where it was set
- Aperture ring now in 1/3 steps
- The four way control pad and menu button is better than the old wheel and hard to press menu button
- Fit and finish seems better, tighter fit on bottom plate,
- My Fuji hoods line up with one of the cut-out vents in front of the finder on the X100, not so on the X100T where one of the spokes block the finder view, *** Fuji, what's the point of having the vents if they don't line up?? Lensmate ships a mylar spacer with their hoods, will have to try one.
Operation:
- Faster focus speed in AREA
- Same focus speed in MULTI
- Adds face detect (not the most solid implementation, could be useful at times)
- Manual focus is improved and the distance scale readout seems more accurate
- Auto ISO now has three separate configurations (base ISO, ISO limit and min shutter speed) and you can switch to auto ISO via ISO button
- EVF is much improved, a lot less lag, better in low light, still like the OVF better
- LCD has better resolution and is slightly bigger
- Q menu is very useful
- Fn buttons have many more customization options and all buttons on 4-way control is assignable. Not sure why the Drive button is not just Fn2 and assignable. I hardly ever use the Drive feature and the button it's now right where my thumb is, so I would like to make use of it for something else.
- In review mode, image enlarging vie thumb-wheel is much better than the old X100 +/- buttons
WiFi:
- Fun addition, remote control app for smartphone works pretty well and is useful
- WiFi transfer from camera to computer (PC Auto Save), not so great, cumbersome to configure, very slow with raw files, should work better with smaller JPEGs. I will use my phone to grab the pics I do want to quickly share and a card reader for transferring files to computer.
- Direct printing to Instax printer, should be useful once I get a printer
Does all of this add up to convince someone to upgrade? I guess it depends. If you are on the fence whether to upgrade or not, I would simply hold off. I don't think that the pictures I'll take with the X100T will be that much better, but the X100T is definitely more fun to use and feels more responsive. It also opens up some new ways of working with the WiFi capabilities.
-Thomas
IQ:
- 4 additional megapixels gives a bit more resolution, less noise at high ISO
- CMOS vs X-Trans, not sure yet, colors look different
- One example using OOC JPEGs with exposure adjustment in LightRoom -
X100T: http://thomasrisberg.com/Fujifilm/DSCF0018.JPG
X100: http://thomasrisberg.com/Fujifilm/DSCF8306.JPG
Physical Controls:
- M/C/S focus mode slider is much better
- Focus ring has better grip now
- Exposure comp wheel has extra stop and is stiffer which should help it stay where it was set
- Aperture ring now in 1/3 steps
- The four way control pad and menu button is better than the old wheel and hard to press menu button
- Fit and finish seems better, tighter fit on bottom plate,
- My Fuji hoods line up with one of the cut-out vents in front of the finder on the X100, not so on the X100T where one of the spokes block the finder view, *** Fuji, what's the point of having the vents if they don't line up?? Lensmate ships a mylar spacer with their hoods, will have to try one.
Operation:
- Faster focus speed in AREA
- Same focus speed in MULTI
- Adds face detect (not the most solid implementation, could be useful at times)
- Manual focus is improved and the distance scale readout seems more accurate
- Auto ISO now has three separate configurations (base ISO, ISO limit and min shutter speed) and you can switch to auto ISO via ISO button
- EVF is much improved, a lot less lag, better in low light, still like the OVF better
- LCD has better resolution and is slightly bigger
- Q menu is very useful
- Fn buttons have many more customization options and all buttons on 4-way control is assignable. Not sure why the Drive button is not just Fn2 and assignable. I hardly ever use the Drive feature and the button it's now right where my thumb is, so I would like to make use of it for something else.
- In review mode, image enlarging vie thumb-wheel is much better than the old X100 +/- buttons
WiFi:
- Fun addition, remote control app for smartphone works pretty well and is useful
- WiFi transfer from camera to computer (PC Auto Save), not so great, cumbersome to configure, very slow with raw files, should work better with smaller JPEGs. I will use my phone to grab the pics I do want to quickly share and a card reader for transferring files to computer.
- Direct printing to Instax printer, should be useful once I get a printer
Does all of this add up to convince someone to upgrade? I guess it depends. If you are on the fence whether to upgrade or not, I would simply hold off. I don't think that the pictures I'll take with the X100T will be that much better, but the X100T is definitely more fun to use and feels more responsive. It also opens up some new ways of working with the WiFi capabilities.
-Thomas
willie_901
Veteran
trisberg's summary is accurate. If you can afford the X100T, that's the way to go.
The X100S is a practical compromise
If you use an X100 and enjoy it, keep using it.
The X100S is a practical compromise
If you use an X100 and enjoy it, keep using it.
Dante_Stella
Rex canum cattorumque
Any other updates? I was thinking of buying an X100T, since it's something of a pain to use a full-spectrum X100 for daylight shooting (primarily due to AWB vagaries). Particularly, does the face detection handle kids well?
Also, I assume that the OOC b/w conversions are as good on this as the X-Pro1?
Thanks!
Also, I assume that the OOC b/w conversions are as good on this as the X-Pro1?
Thanks!
cmc850
Established
I love the x100T but not for the obvious reasons...its introduction pushed prices for a mint x100s to around half a new T - so I bought one. I have wifi via Eye-Fi card.
All seem to have excellent image quality, and the same compelling form factor - optical and electronic finder in addition to lcd. I almost did a used X-E1 and a 18mm lens, but the higher cost prevented it, and the thought that I would be compelled to buy a bunch of lenses, when my main FF Canon system has wide and tele covered already.
All seem to have excellent image quality, and the same compelling form factor - optical and electronic finder in addition to lcd. I almost did a used X-E1 and a 18mm lens, but the higher cost prevented it, and the thought that I would be compelled to buy a bunch of lenses, when my main FF Canon system has wide and tele covered already.
Hsg
who dares wins
Overall the X100 image in that comparison has a more natural color reproduction as well as better color contrast... In my subjective view of course.
AZPhotog
Keith S
The Face Detection feature instituted on the X100T is really nice. If you make a lot of people photos you will be happy to have this feature.
I traded my X100S in on the X100T and the two real differences FOR ME was:
The X100S has a silly awkward (to me) push-lever on the back that has been replaced by a more logical wheel on the X100T.
My X100s (maybe just mine?) had issues with the multi-function buttons being overly sensitive to the point that I could ALMOST breathe on it hard enough to cause actuations. This annoyed and frustrated me to no end but I figured if I sent it in for service it would likely come back the same. My X100T does not have that issue.
As far as anything else is concerned I would be just as happy with an X100S or X100T.
I traded my X100S in on the X100T and the two real differences FOR ME was:
The X100S has a silly awkward (to me) push-lever on the back that has been replaced by a more logical wheel on the X100T.
My X100s (maybe just mine?) had issues with the multi-function buttons being overly sensitive to the point that I could ALMOST breathe on it hard enough to cause actuations. This annoyed and frustrated me to no end but I figured if I sent it in for service it would likely come back the same. My X100T does not have that issue.
As far as anything else is concerned I would be just as happy with an X100S or X100T.
danielsterno
making soup from mud
Hsg
who dares wins
Fuji X100 series and Xpro1 are the only two unique cameras that offer OVF and EVF in the same body... Had they combined that with a nice 24mp CMOS sensor instead of sticking to the X-trans, they would have sold a lot more.