X100F in-camera crop modes

[twopointeight]

The 50mm and 75mm (equivalents), which are jpeg only, produce files that look very soft to me, at least as infinity focus. Some close-ups looked much better. I'm in new camera testing mode and need to know whether these 50/75 crops are worth bothering with? So far, not. What is your experience?

 

[frank-grumman]

I have that same question. 🙂

 

[willie_901]

I can't comment. I never use in-camera crops. If I did I would use raw files and crop in post-production.

Right now I can't come up with how an in-camera JPEG crop would be inherently softer than a post-production raw-rendering crop. However, the in-camera JPEG rendering parameters could be responsible. I would try comparing different in-camera JPEG settings using a tripod. I guess the sharpening parameter should always be at the lowest level.

 

[Archlich]

Showing the actual images will make things much easier.

 

[shawn]

Right now I can't come up with how an in-camera JPEG crop would be inherently softer than a post-production raw-rendering crop. However, the in-camera JPEG rendering parameters could be responsible. I would try comparing different in-camera JPEG settings using a tripod. I guess the sharpening parameter should always be at the lowest level.

I don't have the x100f but I am pretty sure Fuji made the odd choice of keeping all JPEGs 24 megapixels, even in the crop modes. So it crops the image (lower resolution) and then upsamples that back to 24 megapixels. That would likely be softer looking than just a plain crop.

Shawn

 

[shimokita]

I have the Fuji x100t and image size can be set to L, M, or S and withing each size the crop can be 3:2, 16:9, or 1:1. The number of photos that will fit on the SD card will be different for each size (L,M,S) and crop setting. For example at the "L"arge size the resulting in-camera JPGs were as follows:

3:2 - 815 images (4896 x 3264 px / 15.98 Mpx)
16:9 - 962 images (4896 x 2760 px / 13.51 Mpx)
1:1 - 1,220 images (3264 x 3264 px / 10.65 Mpx)

I did a quick test without a tripod and a quicker look at the images on the PC. I couldn't tell any huge difference in my test subject... it was a very quick look.

 

[shawn]

This isn't the different aspect ratio options but the digital teleconverter for 50 and 75mm FOV that applies the upsampling.

https://fujixweekly.wordpress.com/2017/08/28/fujifilm-x100f-digital-teleconverter/

Shawn

 

[kshapero]

This isn't the different aspect ratio options but the digital teleconverter for 50 and 75mm FOV that applies the upsampling.

https://fujixweekly.wordpress.com/2017/08/28/fujifilm-x100f-digital-teleconverter/

Shawn

An amazing feature.

 

[willie_901]

I don't have the x100f but I am pretty sure Fuji made the odd choice of keeping all JPEGs 24 megapixels, even in the crop modes. So it crops the image (lower resolution) and then upsamples that back to 24 megapixels. That would likely be softer looking than just a plain crop.

Shawn

Well, that's motivation to use raw files and crop in post-production.

 

[shawn]

Well, that's motivation to use raw files and crop in post-production.

True, but then you have to visualize/guess at framing. You can't use that mode and shoot raw.

Shawn

 

[twopointeight]

Failed to load image on the first try. Here it is below. Maybe too small to see the softness?

 

[twopointeight]

Here it is, straight Adobe Standard jpeg, 75mm equivalent.

 

[willie_901]

True, but then you have to visualize/guess at framing. You can't use that mode and shoot raw.

Shawn

I can visualize the framing during post-production.

Guessing at appropriate frame boundaries doesn't seem like much of a challenge since the native frame has a filed of view that is double the 50 mm crop and 2.8 times larger than the 75mm crop. The native raw-file frame will never be too small.

 

[willie_901]

Here it is, straight Adobe Standard jpeg, 75mm equivalent.

That's really bad.

Please share ISO, shutter time and aperture.

 

[twopointeight]

iso 400 1/600 sec @ f8

Think I'm going to forget this feature and just think of the the x100F as a 35mm (equivalent) only and shoot raw as always. I have the XT2 and 35 and 50 so why mess around with this compromised on the x100F?