Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
It's not that surprising. High ISO capability was never a selling point for a camera such as the XA. So that's the marketing side. Technically, I doubt they could have put a 1/1000 or 1/2000 speed into those tiny bodies with late 70s/early 80s technology, anyway. Not at affordable cost, for sure.
Later, the market shifted to autofocus and zooms and motorized advance (all of which you should avoid if you want a quiet camera) and, as has been said, with AF they all prioritize fast shutter speed over DOF.
I think your affordable choices will all be compromises. My choice would be to get an XA4 or later Minox, so you can shoot at 1600 but keep the advantage of small and light.
Do any SLRs have AE with the mirror locked up? That would be another option then, probably still quieter than a Bessa and scale focussing a 35 or wider at f/8 or 11 is easy.
Hi,
Technology's evolution, right against my interests, was clear to me... That's why yesterday I wrote in one of my first postings here "I can't believe it... It looks like THE CAMERA I WANT WAS NEVER MADE!... An XA with higher ISO just doesn't exist... A fixed lens AE RF with high manual ISO settings was never born because of technology..."
I was talking about a camera LIKE an XA but with higher ISO... What seems surprising to me yet, is that I was not able to find any other AE option with manual aperture for a low price... But I guess it must exist... Maybe there was a Nikon or Canon... It should be somewhere... An XA can be found for $40-$50, but similar and often inferior options I found for 3200 film jump to ten times that: near the price of a used M2 or M3! Some of them with even less control than the XA... A little surprising...
About the XA4, It's almost the same as XA: I need 3 more stops in ISO, and with the XA4 I'd just get a third of that... Apart, losing the great lens I have on my XA...
I might find it, unless I find a way to make an XA expose for less light...
Cheers,
Juan
batterytypehah!
Lord of the Dings
I'm quite aware how many stops it is from 800 to 6400, thanks very much. That's why I said you'd have to compromise.
You're on an impossible quest, but if you want to keep bumping your head against reality: Suit yourself.
You're on an impossible quest, but if you want to keep bumping your head against reality: Suit yourself.
mike-s
Established
I'm like you I don't want to disturb people in places of worship. But unlike you I use slow film. I set my 'infinity' on self-timer (be sure the flash is off) and use a $10 small tripod, it only goes up about a foot. It also fits in my pocket. Here is one where I put it on a ledge in a mosque in Turkey:
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Beutifull picture!
emasterphoto
Established
What you want is a Fuji Klasse. From your description it seems it'll do exactly as you want - ISO 3200 max w/ DX or manual set, Program & Aperture-priority AE, exposure comp, AF, fixed lens (38mm f2.8 or 28mm f2.8 depending on model, there's 2), can be purchased brand new and has a nice classic RF styling. Only catch is it's Japan-only so you have to order it via JapanExposures or the like, and they're not the cheapest cameras out there. If your requirements are as stringent as you say, you may just have to pony up the cash then.
http://fujifilm.jp/personal/filmcamera/35mm/klasses/index.html
http://www.japanexposures.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=141
http://fujifilm.jp/personal/filmcamera/35mm/klasses/index.html
http://www.japanexposures.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=141
Hi,
Yes, I had seen them... Both of them go to DX 3200... But again in the $400-$500 range... I'd prefer buying an R3A...
I agree, I didn't realize they were that expensive.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
I still don't see the point of what you actually want. Just a compact camera to use with high speed film?
You say you don't want AE. I suggest you just get yourself a small, good lightmeter and a sub-$50 compact camera with a full manual mode.
The package will be small and you can go to high ISO all the way you want. The meter will be useful in other contexts too.
You say you don't want AE. I suggest you just get yourself a small, good lightmeter and a sub-$50 compact camera with a full manual mode.
The package will be small and you can go to high ISO all the way you want. The meter will be useful in other contexts too.
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