Sparrow
Veteran
rxmd said:There is, however, a peculiar neutrino shielding property of ordinary brown paper if wrapped around a Leica M8. This property is mediated by affixing an antineutrino catalyst seal to the outside of the paper and coding it with a set of codes. The sealed camera must then be put in a protective box.
Catalyst seals are available from CERN in Geneva and from the Kamioka research plant in Japan; however, research shows that ordinary gummed paper stamps available from most post offices do the job, too, due to the gum affixed on their back. If you want to protect your M8 this way, I have a set of codes handy that you can write on the outside of the wrapped M8 before having it placed in the protective box, which is also available for your convenience at the nearest post office.
Philipp
Philipp, you sound sceptical? I’m pretty sure my statement about the protection properties of aluminium foil is true.
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rxmd
May contain traces of nut
I don't doubt that. A layer or two of aluminum foil will shield neutrinos more or less to the same extent as an inch of lead. Or a mile of strawberry fudge, for that matterSparrow said:Philipp, you sound sceptical? I’m pretty sure my statement about the protection properties of aluminium foil is true.
Philipp
sgy1962
Well-known
What this means is that M8 users should stay at home, inside, and never go out. In fact, keep the camera in a box, all the time.
Seriously, with a product life cyle of three or so years, use the heck out of it. And mourne those pixels when they depart to the heafter. Say a little prayer, and get on shooting. Take a picture of any pixel funeral.
Seriously, with a product life cyle of three or so years, use the heck out of it. And mourne those pixels when they depart to the heafter. Say a little prayer, and get on shooting. Take a picture of any pixel funeral.
pfogle
Well-known
my 2c worth - forget neutrinos - nothing stops them, but they don't matter anyway.
Cosmic rays - energetic ones will go through anything you can carry on a plane. Mostly they'll only cause a fogged pixel during an exposure. Permanent damage is very rare, but can happen.
What's more to the point is what they're doing to you - DNA damage from CR's is a real risk.
Just a short, cheerful note...
Cosmic rays - energetic ones will go through anything you can carry on a plane. Mostly they'll only cause a fogged pixel during an exposure. Permanent damage is very rare, but can happen.
What's more to the point is what they're doing to you - DNA damage from CR's is a real risk.
Just a short, cheerful note...
Sparrow
Veteran
So why then didn’t the Apollo astronauts get a tan during the moon shots? Answer me that!
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
1: WHo yold you they didn't?Sparrow said:So why then didn’t the Apollo astronauts get a tan during the moon shots? Answer me that!
2: They might have been using tan cream.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Easy. Because they never went to the moon in the first place, and the landing footage was shot in a Hollywood studio of course.Sparrow said:So why then didn’t the Apollo astronauts get a tan during the moon shots? Answer me that!
Philipp
newyorkone
Established
Sparrow said:So why then didn’t the Apollo astronauts get a tan during the moon shots? Answer me that!
Because the whole thing was filmed on a set and we never went to the moon
EDIT: I see that my post was redundant...
newyorkone
Established
Maybe Leica included this info because there's the possibility that someone might actually keep the M8 and use it for more than a year or two and never even care about upgrading. Someone might even use it for 10, 20, etc. years.
We don't really know what will happen to consumer digital cameras after 10+ years since they haven't been around long enough. Maybe the cosmic rays thing isn't an issue in the first 10 years but perhaps the possibility increases with time.
Just guessing...
We don't really know what will happen to consumer digital cameras after 10+ years since they haven't been around long enough. Maybe the cosmic rays thing isn't an issue in the first 10 years but perhaps the possibility increases with time.
Just guessing...
jlw
Rangefinder camera pedant
rxmd said:Easy. Because they never went to the moon in the first place, and the landing footage was shot in a Hollywood studio of course.
Don't be silly. There's no such place as Hollywood. (How could there be, considering all the weird things reputed to happen there? It's obviously just an implausible fiction concocted to add glamour to the entertainment industry.)
All those "Hollywood" films you see in theaters have to be shot in studios on the moon to keep the masses from discovering the Truth...
MikeL
Go Fish
Sparrow said:I wouldn’t worry about it one or two layers of aluminium foil offers the same protection from neutrinos as 1/4" lead shielding.
You guys and your silly notions about tin foil. Everyone knows tin foil is only good for blocking out CIA mind control radiation. Jeesh, am I the only educated one around here?
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
rxmd said:There is, however, a peculiar neutrino shielding property of ordinary brown paper if wrapped around a Leica M8. This property is mediated by affixing an antineutrino catalyst seal to the outside of the paper and coding it with a set of codes. The sealed camera must then be put in a protective box.
Catalyst seals are available from CERN in Geneva and from the Kamioka research plant in Japan; however, research shows that ordinary gummed paper stamps available from most post offices do the job, too, due to the gum affixed on their back. If you want to protect your M8 this way, I have a set of codes handy that you can write on the outside of the wrapped M8 before having it placed in the protective box, which is also available for your convenience at the nearest post office.
Philipp
You forgot to say it is essential that a label with your adress be affixed to the box and it must be kept in the nearest mailbox....
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
You guys are wrong. Both Hollywood and the Moon are fiction. All the things are shot in Bollywood.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
Jaap, I don't think he forgot that
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ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
Are these cosmic rays that may damage pixels the same as the cosmic rays that may fog film?
Sparrow
Veteran
Some do effect film, I understand that the damage is made worse by opening and closing the shutter, there is a rumour that in extreme circumstances they will burn through the shutter itselfJon Claremont said:Are these cosmic rays that may damage pixels the same as the cosmic rays that may fog film?
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
Thank you. I'd better not open the shutter.
Sparrow
Veteran
rxmd said:I don't doubt that. A layer or two of aluminum foil will shield neutrinos more or less to the same extent as an inch of lead. Or a mile of strawberry fudge, for that matter("M8 Limited Fudge edition", anyone?)
Philipp
Yes I agree but the aluminium foil seems the most practical for both air travel and shipping
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Nick R.
Guest
Sparrow said:Some do effect film, I understand that the damage is made worse by opening and closing the shutter, . . .
LOL, You're too much!
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