Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Raid, I made it correct for you. 
I have had this thought! And sell my 75/1.4 Lux.
raid
Dad Photographer
ah, in that case, i would get all sorts of things.
really right stuff or gitzo tripods
a linhof technika or technikardan
8x10 view camera
hasselblad x-pan/fuji tx
fuji gf670 or mamiya 7ii
nikon f, lnib
make a frankenleica
olympus pen w
densitometer
pricey photobooks!
an alpa 6x9
deluxe camera bags and straps
esoteric lenses
linhof technorama or fuji gx617
g-technology array
photoshop, digital printing, archiving courses
All of this for $3000? :angel:
raid
Dad Photographer
Raid, I made it correct for you.![]()
Yes, you are right here. I should sell both.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts

One kit to rule them all by Johan Niels Kuiper, on Flickr
ºSony A7
ºTamron Adaptall 17mm 3.5 (type 51B)
ºCanon TS 35mm 2.8 S.S.C.
ºCanon FD 50mm 1.2L
ºCanon FD 85mm 1.2L
ºCanon FD 135mm 2.0
I'll take USD 3000 for it, Raid...
raid
Dad Photographer
Do all lenses fit the A7 with RF?
This is useful and very good stuff.
I have these:
ºCanon TS 35mm 2.8 S.S.C.
ºCanon FD 50mm 1.2L
ºCanon FD 85mm 1.2L
... and many more
This is useful and very good stuff.
I have these:
ºCanon TS 35mm 2.8 S.S.C.
ºCanon FD 50mm 1.2L
ºCanon FD 85mm 1.2L
... and many more
madNbad
Well-known
Help out the Head Bartender and get a couple Voigtlander lenses that are on sale ‘till midnight PST.
Ronald M
Veteran
If all I had was 3000, a camera would be the last thing.
If 3000 is budget for a camera, buy something else as Leica is a money pit I can confirm. You assume you are buying something of long term value and can be repaired. Not the case.
Nikon D750 and 50 1.8 for 2000 is what you should get. I own Leica and Nikon.
If 3000 is budget for a camera, buy something else as Leica is a money pit I can confirm. You assume you are buying something of long term value and can be repaired. Not the case.
Nikon D750 and 50 1.8 for 2000 is what you should get. I own Leica and Nikon.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
With a single Canon FD adapter they all go on the Sony A7, A7R etc. series of cameras. As well as the A9.
And all Leitz lenses go on the camera too, with a different adapter. Except for the widest, but I find my Tamron 17mm would be hard to beat anyway and it wasn't even that expensive!
I don't even own any AF lenses for the Sony, I like manual shooting most anyway and don't shoot stuff that requires fast AF.
The camera is set up in such a way that I can control all essential setting with the buttons and dials. The only thing I need the menu for is to format the card every now and then.
I'll happily share my settings with you, Raid.
And all Leitz lenses go on the camera too, with a different adapter. Except for the widest, but I find my Tamron 17mm would be hard to beat anyway and it wasn't even that expensive!
I don't even own any AF lenses for the Sony, I like manual shooting most anyway and don't shoot stuff that requires fast AF.
The camera is set up in such a way that I can control all essential setting with the buttons and dials. The only thing I need the menu for is to format the card every now and then.
I'll happily share my settings with you, Raid.
raid
Dad Photographer
The Sony A7 can be found for under $1000. If such a full frame camera is excellent overall, why isn't everybody getting one in place of a digital Leica that costs much more money?
f16sunshine
Moderator
The Sony A7 can be found for under $1000. If such a full frame camera is excellent overall, why isn't everybody getting one in place of a digital Leica that costs much more money?
I did.
It's great. Performance for the range of lenses I use is great. Some with wide M lenses will have issues in corners.
The thing about the Sony is .... it's not a Rangefinder.
You said $3000. That says M240 to me not A7
Axel
singleshooter
raid
Dad Photographer
Yes, I was/am thinking of the slick looking Olympus Pen-F. A Leica would be better for me though.
raid
Dad Photographer
I did.
It's great. Performance for the range of lenses I use is great. Some with wide M lenses will have issues in corners.
The thing about the Sony is .... it's not a Rangefinder.
You said $3000. That says M240 to me not A7![]()
I said $3000, but I also said that I do not yet have $3000. :bang:
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
The Sony A7 can be found for under $1000. If such a full frame camera is excellent overall, why isn't everybody getting one in place of a digital Leica that costs much more money?
Because the Leica gets you bragging rights and snobbery, and Sony gets you comments like this:

But the Sony also gets you images like this:

Portrait of Belle by Johan Niels Kuiper, on Flickr
Sony A7 and Canon FD 85mm 1.2L. First shot I ever took with the combo.
And I'll happily take the silly comments if I can get pictures like this from it!
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Oh and don't just take my word for it Raid, ask fellow RFF'er Michael Markey too, who bought an A7S for his Leica and Pentax glass...
raid
Dad Photographer
I did.
It's great. Performance for the range of lenses I use is great. Some with wide M lenses will have issues in corners.
The thing about the Sony is .... it's not a Rangefinder.
You said $3000. That says M240 to me not A7![]()
I said $3000, but I also said that I do not yet have $3000. :bang:
raid
Dad Photographer
Oh and don't just take my word for it Raid, ask fellow RFF'er Michael Markey too, who bought an A7S for his Leica and Pentax glass...
Other than losing RF focusing, is there any other loss (plus corners for wide angle lenses getting smeared results)?
f16sunshine
Moderator
The A7ii versions offer Image stabilization and also the ability to use an Autofocus adapter for manual lenses.
The "techart adapter" allows one to adapt there M mount and other lenses to the camera and make use of the Sony AF system.
Read about it .... very cool stuff and useful for photographers.
I bought the basic A7 at a good price second hand.
Since that time, the A7ii and now descendants have come onto the market.
For around $1000 you can get a new A7ii and all that it offers.
Corners??.... there are solutions.
The least invasive solution is to buy wide lenses that work well on the Sony bodies. There are plenty.
The "techart adapter" allows one to adapt there M mount and other lenses to the camera and make use of the Sony AF system.
Read about it .... very cool stuff and useful for photographers.
I bought the basic A7 at a good price second hand.
Since that time, the A7ii and now descendants have come onto the market.
For around $1000 you can get a new A7ii and all that it offers.
Corners??.... there are solutions.
The least invasive solution is to buy wide lenses that work well on the Sony bodies. There are plenty.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Other than losing RF focusing, is there any other loss (plus corners for wide angle lenses getting smeared results)?
Not to my knowledge, Raid.
And using the wide angles from the SLR era on these cameras is no issue at all, just steer away from anything wider than 35mm in RF lenses to totally avoid darker corners etc. Personally, I like darker corners on a wide angle shot, it centers the eye...
This is the Tamron 17mm 3.5 on the Sony A7:

Schlachtensee by Johan Niels Kuiper, on Flickr
Contrast and tonal range are very good too, this contains anything from almost black to completely white and the camera can render it all in the single shot. It just shows aberrations in the top left corner but I guess any other camera would have done so too, that's a pretty tricky spot with the bright backlighting through the branches...
Mind you this is the 'original' A7, I suppose the later incarnations of the series even improved on this...
Mackinaw
Think Different
.....The thing about the Sony is .... it's not a Rangefinder. You said $3000. That says M240 to me not A7![]()
I agree with Andy. Something about a rangefinder that just makes things right (which is why I own an M240).
But if I had $3,000 to spend, I'm not sure what I do. Maybe buy an 178mm F2.5 Aero-Ektar for my 4X5. Talk about a lens with a unique signature.
Jim B.
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