Your favorite Point & Shoot with a Viewfinder and RAW capture

The Leica X2 remains my favorite in this category of small, very capable, pocketable cameras. I think I paid too much for mine (it was as-new-in-box with everything for $1300 last year) but I see them on Ebay nowadays for $600-$750, usually just camera/battery/charger...

Some X2 photos: Flickr Search — “"Leica X2"”

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This is the second one I've owned. I missed having the pocketability and ease of use enough that I bought another...

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Thanks for the responses.

Trying to keep on a tight budget. Really kicking myself because I bought my kids a great little Canon P&S when they were in middle school (like ten years ago) and taking class trips to Washington DC. Between them and me, we've somehow lost it. Tore my whole camera closest apart looking for it over the last two days and no dice.

Max price would be the Sony RX100 VII, but would really rather not spend that much. Would like to keep it under $1000 if possible. Leaning away from buying used as I've had some bad experiences with point & shoots just up and dying. Bought a brand new Leica D-Lux 5 back in the day and it crapped out after one week, sent it back to Leica, they fixed it, crapped out again two weeks later, they fixed it again, crapped out again, they finally just gave me my money back. So would be concerned about a used model with no warranty.

Best,
-Tim

As someone else has posted, at least you got your money back. Which puts you in a place better than most.

Viewfinderless cameras are not for me. I dislike using a digital P&S like a mini view camera, if I want such a beast I'll get a Sinar, which are going dirt-cheaply in Australia now. (The cost of 4x5 film has a lot to do with that, I suspect.)

I see nothing amiss or remiss with buying used gear if you apply a little common sense and stay within your budget.

Avoid camera shops. Try pawnbrokers. Tons of bargain cameras are there, lying patiently in wait for a new home, much like pretty kittens living on the streets.

A possibly good second hunting-place is charity shops, but here it helps if you keep in mind that many of the cameras they sell are either way overpriced or useless junk or often both. Volunteers who know nothing about anything see a film camera and think, "it's old, it must be worth heaps!"and price them like diamonds. Last month some pigeon coughed up AUD $200 in hard cash in our local Salvos for a worn-out Nikon D60 without a battery and missing various bits. I kid you not, $200. PT Barnum again.

My now antiquated Lumix GF1 with two lenses and the hateful clip-on viewfinder, an amazingly good camera after I figured out the strange ways how it worked, came from a pawnbroker. I didn't buy it, a friend did. She couldn't make sense of it and opted for a Canon G10, which she also hated. I was given the GF1 as a gift. Somebody else landed the G10. They hated it too. What they saw in the viewfinder and the end result were miles apart. As the second G10 owner told me, "I used it for two years, and I got that many usable pictures from it."

On the other hand a neighbour of ours bought a Canon G9 new. He paid a lot for it, he still has it, he has taken it around the world two times and on severral ocean cruises, and he loves it.

What is the message here? Bummered if I know. Cameras, like life, are mostly a matter of luck, I reckon.
 
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Panasonic LX7 / Leica D-Lux have detachable EVF's, but you had issues with buying a secondhand P&S. I loved my LX7 until the lens barrel stopped extending, so there's that.

Avoid cameras from pre-2010, they are slow as heck compared with what we have now, and won't give the image quality you want as their dynamic range is very limited. The exception is the Sigma DP series, but see above for their quirks.

Well said, but there are exceptions. Not many, but some.

Two I've had are a Lumix GF1 and a Nikon D90, both of which we still use at home.

The GF1 isn't much to rave about with JPG, and the crappy viewfinder sucks big time, but it can be surprisingly good if used with RAW at its highest quality setting and with a lot of PP, the images are amazing. A lot of work, but much can be done.

The D90 is the camera that finally convinced me to move from film to digital. Admittedly many newer Nikons have far higher resolution and many frills the older ones lack, but in my travels around Southeast Asia I still see many young photographers with D90s and kit lenses, out and about, making good images. Which says a lot about Nikon quality.

If I was on a bread-and-butter budget and could have only one camera, it would be either of these (likely the D90).
 
Will be heading south via airplane at the end of March, so don't want to bring any of my film gear. And want to travel extremely light so was looking for a point & shoot.

Been having a ball with the little Kodak Charmera, but the image quality is not up to what I need on this trip. And it seems like so many of the really nice point & shoots from days gone by are no longer available.

So I'm throwing this out there to see if anyone has any suggestions. I'd love it if the camera could capture RAW files, and it would be awesome it it had either a built in viewfinder or an attachable viewfinder.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Best,
-Tim
Sony RX100M7. Unbeatable. 24-200mm optically. 2.8 on the wide end. Built in viewfinder and great little fill flash if you need it.
 
Will be heading south via airplane at the end of March, so don't want to bring any of my film gear. And want to travel extremely light so was looking for a point & shoot.

Been having a ball with the little Kodak Charmera, but the image quality is not up to what I need on this trip. And it seems like so many of the really nice point & shoots from days gone by are no longer available.

So I'm throwing this out there to see if anyone has any suggestions. I'd love it if the camera could capture RAW files, and it would be awesome it it had either a built in viewfinder or an attachable viewfinder.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Best,
-Tim

Point and shoot with or without autofocus?

W/O autofocus and a digital any M-body.

W autofocus the X2D II hands down, all day long.

I have an old A7M III that is a sweet "git 'er done" with that 24 - 240 Sony/Zeiss zoom. Just killer.
 
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Will be heading south via airplane at the end of March, so don't want to bring any of my film gear. And want to travel extremely light so was looking for a point & shoot.

Been having a ball with the little Kodak Charmera, but the image quality is not up to what I need on this trip. And it seems like so many of the really nice point & shoots from days gone by are no longer available.

So I'm throwing this out there to see if anyone has any suggestions. I'd love it if the camera could capture RAW files, and it would be awesome it it had either a built in viewfinder or an attachable viewfinder.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Best,
-Tim
Nikon

Will be heading south via airplane at the end of March, so don't want to bring any of my film gear. And want to travel extremely light so was looking for a point & shoot.

Been having a ball with the little Kodak Charmera, but the image quality is not up to what I need on this trip. And it seems like so many of the really nice point & shoots from days gone by are no longer available.

So I'm throwing this out there to see if anyone has any suggestions. I'd love it if the camera could capture RAW files, and it would be awesome it it had either a built in viewfinder or an attachable viewfinder.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Best,
-Tim
Nikon Z30
Nikon Z 30 | Refurbished Camera | Nikon USA
Way less $ than a Leica.
 
It's hard to beat a Sony RX100 when it comes to portability combined with decent image quality. I've taken an RX100Va as the only camera on a couple of holiday travels and it's held up well, even in challenging light conditions. It's got strap lugs on both sides, so you can carry it on a wrist strap, but also on a neck strap (my preference when walking around).

Its EVF is a pop-up one, which may or may not be something that you might like. If you need it, it's there, and if you don't need it, it doesn't stick out. What's actually quite nifty, is the built-in flash; it can be pulled back a bit to make it bounce on a ceiling.


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Nikon Z30
Nikon Z 30 | Refurbished Camera | Nikon USA
Way less $ than a Leica.
ebay: Leica X1 ... about $650
ebay: Leica X2 ... about $730
the site you pointed to: Nikon Z30 one lens kit ... about $635

Less, but not "way less".
Biggest difference is 12 or 16 Mpixels vs 21 Mpixels, and interchangeable lenses.

Probably a nice camera if I wanted to get into yet another Nikon system. But if i wanted an interchangeable lens compact, I'd hunt up another Leica CL since I have all the lenses and other bits that I used to use with mine (they work fine on my Ms). 😉

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When it could be had as a refurbished unit for ~50 USD, I thought the Kodak Pixpro FZ45 was a heck of a nice camera, and even at $120, it might be worth a look. FZ55 seems to be more or less the same, but designed to use rechargeable lithium batteries, rather than 2x AA. Although I have fond memories of buying new Canon or Samsung compact cameras for $150, (sometimes from Office Depot!) those days are long gone.

If you don't mind lowish-fi looks (not as extreme as Kodak Charmera), there's Camp Snap.
 
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