dakotah
dakotah
I have a Zeiss Ikon Super Nettel that is in real nice shape, but everything seem to be locked up. The film advance knob, film advance sprocket, rangefinder/focus wheel do not move. The metal shutter looks in good shape. The shutter cannot be be activated, but the release button does does travel up/down. I'm unable to set the shutter speed, and at present the indicator points somewhere between 1000 & B. Any advise as to how to troubleshoot this problem?
iandiam
Member
First, don't force anything.
It sounds like it may not be opening correctly or like somehting is not engaging where it should. Have you used this one with film before or is it new to you?
It sounds like it may not be opening correctly or like somehting is not engaging where it should. Have you used this one with film before or is it new to you?
Ken Smith
Why yes Ma'am - it folds
One - try posting this on the 120 folder thread. Even some of the simplest folders have a multi-exposure lock that prevents the shutter from being tripped unless you advance to the next frame - it keeps the release button from tripping the shutter. Could be a host of things to include dried frozen lubricants, etc.
Secondly - I'd like to see the shutter on a folder that runs from 1000 to B!!!! I want one of those since the highest you can get is on a Compur Rapid or Compur Synchro and those go up to 400- 500 depending on the shutter vintage.
Secondly - I'd like to see the shutter on a folder that runs from 1000 to B!!!! I want one of those since the highest you can get is on a Compur Rapid or Compur Synchro and those go up to 400- 500 depending on the shutter vintage.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Secondly - I'd like to see the shutter on a folder that runs from 1000 to B!!!!
It is the Contax focal plane shutter... The Super Nettel could be described as a miniaturized Super Ikonta B folding and focusing mechanism stuck onto a Contax body.
Some time ago I saw a Super Nettel repair manual reprint for sale online, but I can't find it any more. If there are none to be found, Contax and Super Ikonta B/BX repair books/manuals should get the OP 90% of the way.
Sevo
furcafe
Veteran
Yes, like the Nettax (538/24), the Super Nettel shutter is most similar to that of the Contax II (possibly w/some "features" of the Contax I, too).
It is the Contax focal plane shutter... The Super Nettel could be described as a miniaturized Super Ikonta B folding and focusing mechanism stuck onto a Contax body.
Some time ago I saw a Super Nettel repair manual reprint for sale online, but I can't find it any more. If there are none to be found, Contax and Super Ikonta B/BX repair books/manuals should get the OP 90% of the way.
Sevo
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dakotah
dakotah
Zeiss Ikon Super Nettel
Zeiss Ikon Super Nettel
Ken, The Super Nettel 536/24 has shutter speeds of 1/5 to 1000 sec. It's a vertical metal focal plane shutter.
Zeiss Ikon Super Nettel
Ken, The Super Nettel 536/24 has shutter speeds of 1/5 to 1000 sec. It's a vertical metal focal plane shutter.
Ken Smith
Why yes Ma'am - it folds
Looks like a neat camera. Would even be neater in 120 format which I originally thought this camera was. My bad!
furcafe
Veteran
There is a 120 version. It's called the Super Ikonta A, B, or C. 
Looks like a neat camera. Would even be neater in 120 format which I originally thought this camera was. My bad!
Ken Smith
Why yes Ma'am - it folds
Yeah - but their shutter speeds are 400 or 500 depending on the shutter generation - which I have on my Perkeo II & Bessa II. Now a 120 folder with 1000 would be something else!
Landshark
Well-known
There were one or two(?) years ago. 1000 was pretty much wishful thinking and reliability of the shutter wasn't all that great. I want to think it was a Compur.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Now a 120 folder with 1000 would be something else!
Well, the closest was the Super Speed Graphic, which had the Graflex-1000 shutter (nominally) reaching 1/1000s. 4x5 only, but it folds.
The all-electric linear motor driven Rollei PQS shutter did reliably manage 1/1000s in a size suitable for 6x6 lenses - but only three decades after the folder age ended, and in no folder size either...
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