ZI: When Leica fans attack...

[Honu-Hugger]

Leicaphiles is a too friendly word iHMO, they pretend to love the product, but they just abuse the image for their poor purposes.
We should never forget: Snob once meant "Sine (without) Nobilitate (nobility)". and tho it is used in slightly different meaning nowadays it still means parvenus making their status with goods or things they use as a symbolic substitute for everything they miss but can't buy for money.
P.net is sometimes looking like a lab where you can watch them dancing around with their pants down. That's all quite funny and entertaining as long as it is far away from here. I'd hate to see our party spoiled by some of those. 🙁

Regards,
Bertram

I agree, Bertram. I've never used the word "Leicaphile;" I prefer Leica-Lemming 😉.

 

[Bertram2]

http://www.leica-camera.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.pl?pg=topics
Michiel

This leads to the log in site, as a guest I would have to search the threads you could have meant, but sorry, I am to lazy.

Also because I have to expect to get served that kind of " rebadged cossy" crap , no thanks.

There and in p.net are some bird-brained biological wonders, who obviously have learned to breathe 24X7 the own exhaust gas without dying from it, there is no other explanation for the surving of somebody who has the head so deep in his own a... !! 😀

In former times I found it funny to read their posts, now I find it just boring.

Regards,

Bertram

 

[Huck Finn]

I feel we should cooperate and exchange our thoughts in a positive manner. May I all welcome and invite you at the Leica forums.

for all now, happy shooting and enjoy your ZI .

Michiel

Michel, thank you for the invitation. I agree that the two systems are complementary & offer an opportunity for a positive exchange of ideas that can be helpful. Since both are M-mount, I expect that there will be many people who will mix equipment from both systems. I have a ZI on order, arriving this week, on which I will be using Leica, Zeiss, & Cosina/Voigtlander lenses.

By the way, I have been posting on the English language forum for some time.

Huck

 

[Bertram2]

Also because I have to expect to get served that kind of " rebadged cossy" crap , no thanks.

Bertram

The absolutely latest thing is to speak of a small (R3xx)and a big Cosina (ZI) only :bang:
The name Zeiss Ikon is simply denied related to this camera. I ask myself how sick such a bedwetter must be to find this childish attitude clever.

One should mention tho, that on the Leica list there are enuff who critisize this kinda babble as what it is............ Don't know who has the majority. There a lot of nice guys and good photogs over there at the LUG, a shame tho what damnage these idiots do for the image of the list.

Regards,
Bertram

 

[richard_l]

For anyone who wants the AE crutch :angel: , the ZI makes a lot more sense than the M7. Personally, I would rather have a pristine M4 than either of them. However, those beautiful ZM lenses certainly are tempting.

 

[Socke]

I just got the new Foto Huppert cataloge, front Canon 5d, back ZI. No Contax anymore :-(

Man, the temptation! I want the 5d, light fall off and all, and I want a ZI, it's so sexy!

Since the only brand I was loyal to is now gone, I see the ZI as what it is. A well made rangefinder available for half the price of another well made rangefinder with properties the less well made rangefinder doesn't have 🙂

 

[aizan]

i fondled the zi lenses at the camera show today. they feel really good. the black paint seems pretty heavy duty. the focus ring is more dampened and the aperture ring has firmer detents than leica. basically like the m-hexanons. you might think the focusing bump is small, but it works really great and it was easier for me to focus precisely compared to crescent tabs. the leica lenses are easier to work quickly, i think.

 

[Bertram2]

I just got the new Foto Huppert cataloge, front Canon 5d, back ZI. No Contax anymore :-(
Man, the temptation! I want the 5d, light fall off and all, and I want a ZI, it's so sexy!
)

Suggestion:
Buy the ZI first and wait until the 5D is at 60% of the current price level. 😉
A year or so.
bertram

 

[Bertram2]

For anyone who wants the AE crutch :angel: , the ZI makes a lot more sense than the M7. Personally, I would rather have a pristine M4 than either of them. However, those beautiful ZM lenses certainly are tempting.

Yes why take leica lenses if you can get the better Zeiss lenses for less money ? :angel:

Richard,

as somebody explained recently on the German Leica list your are one of those being solely guilty of having ruined Leica by using old stuff only instead of investing in a new system.
He said that if somebody cannot afford a New Leica he better should buy another brand. 😀
What a simple but ingenious way to explain Leica's idiotic price level !
So shame on you , Richard, forget that moldy old M4 with the lame shutter, order a new Leica NOW or you will be excluded from the enlightened circles of the TRUE knights of the holy grail FOREVER ! 😀 😀 Do you really want to stay second class in the eyes of all these VIPs ??

I personally would prefer the ZI because I cannot afford a Leica. I mean because it would make me suspicious to be one of those enlightened knights , you know ?
That would really bother me ! And the Zeiss lenses are better anyway I suppose ! :angel:

Regards,
Bertram
Joking

 

[richard_l]

Well, er, ummm.... 😱

How could I be so stupid? :bang:

 

[Bertram2]

Well, er, ummm.... 😱

How could I be so stupid? :bang:

Hehe, don't worry , Richard, that's the question we all have to ask ourselves, each time after having read again one of those enlightening leicaistic contributions ! 😀 😀
We notice then again the superior intellectual level of some LUG members, and we feel very very small in the face of such razor-sharp working brains .
It's always a bit as having been in church. 😀 😀 😀

Regards,
bertram
not member of any church