prav66
Newbie
http://cgi.ebay.com/Zeiss-Ikon-for-...ryZ30063QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Looks like its already being sold via e-bay. I imagine popflash or other grey market retailers will have it for cheaper than the present $1,050 soon...
Looks like its already being sold via e-bay. I imagine popflash or other grey market retailers will have it for cheaper than the present $1,050 soon...
goo0h
Well-known
OK, someone needs to pick one up and do some testing and post some pics. 
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goo0h said:OK, someone needs to pick one up and do some testing and post some pics.![]()
i volunteer for this mission.
please send me the lens or money to buy one.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Oh, them. If that's what they are charging, then I'm hopeful for street prices.
Nachkebia
Well-known
I am thinking about it very seriously
I was just wondering it is not expensive? I mean popflash will definetly have it cheaper right? 
Didier
"Deed"
Nachkebia said:I mean popflash will definetly have it cheaper right?
Very likely. "shphoto-gmbh", also selling under the name "arsenall", is one of the most expensive sellers of rangefinder gear that I know. They have a huge choice of new and old items, and sometimes very rare stuff like the 50/1.1 Zunow in M-mount or a black SP with motor drive... Their communications style is quite shortspoken, for not saying discourteous. I would just buy there for an item that is really not available somewhere else.
Didier
visiondr
cyclic iconoclast
Gentlemen,
Look closely at the lens diagram the lens itself is sitting on. That is NOT the Sonnar lens drawing... interesting.
Sounds a bit fishy to me.
Ron
Look closely at the lens diagram the lens itself is sitting on. That is NOT the Sonnar lens drawing... interesting.
Sounds a bit fishy to me.
Ron
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Kyle
Guest
I really wanted one of these, but I got my Canon 50/1.2 and it satisfied my need for an ultra-fast lens. However, i do start my new job next week, and its a nice upgrade in pay, so perhaps I'll get the urge to consolidate my 50/2Z M and Canon 50/1.2 into the 50/1.5 ZM...
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i'm very curious to see a side by side comparison of the zm 2 & 1.5
joe
joe
visiondr said:Gentlemen,
Look closely at the lens diagram the lens itself is sitting on. That is NOT the Sonnar lens drawing... interesting.
Sounds a bit fishy to me.
Ron
I don't believe the new Sonnar is a true "Sonnar" if you compare lens diagrams. I believe the lens design is available at the Zeiss Web site, may be worth a look to confirm.
telenous
Well-known
Now that the Sonnar is coming out perhaps it's a good time to remind everyone what a good lens the Planar 50 ZM is. If one has to have the Sonnar for its speed and, well, Sonnar-like signature, that's fine, but the Planar is a trully excellent lens.
jano
Evil Bokeh
Yah, the other thing is that the new sonnar is a short, stubby lens, something I'm looking for 
Are there other fast 50's that are small, compact, and would give a sonnar-like "signature"? I already have a plaanr for my CG2.
Jano
Are there other fast 50's that are small, compact, and would give a sonnar-like "signature"? I already have a plaanr for my CG2.
Jano
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telenous said:Now that the Sonnar is coming out perhaps it's a good time to remind everyone what a good lens the Planar 50 ZM is. If one has to have the Sonnar for its speed and, well, Sonnar-like signature, that's fine, but the Planar is a trully excellent lens.
i may have to start justifying three 50mm lenses...:bang:
Yes, Sonnars 
Canon 50/1.5
Nikkor 50/2
Jupiter 8
(short that is)
Canon 50/1.5
Nikkor 50/2
Jupiter 8
(short that is)
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rover said:Yes, Sonnars
Canon 50/1.5
Nikkor 50/2
Jupiter 8
i didn't realize the nikkor 50/2 was a sonnar...maybe i should have traded with ray when he wanted to...damn!
telenous
Well-known
As for shphoto.de, I had no clue they are the same with arsenall. There can be no question, if you buy from arsenall you have to pay through your nose. But the shphoto website does have a few fair deals - I 've bought from them a couple of times some "special price" lenses and the prices were not astronomic, while I also had to appreciate that they were making the effort to speak in English.
N.B. Zeiss fans - they still have a few silver ZIs (limited edition) in lesser price that what they usually go for.
PS I have no relation with shphoto, arsenall etc other than that I gave them money for glass.
N.B. Zeiss fans - they still have a few silver ZIs (limited edition) in lesser price that what they usually go for.
PS I have no relation with shphoto, arsenall etc other than that I gave them money for glass.
back alley said:i didn't realize the nikkor 50/2 was a sonnar...maybe i should have traded with ray when he wanted to...damn!
Yes, Nikon grabbed onto those German Patent rights following WWII and used the Zeiss lens designs to develop their post war lenses. I believe the Canon 50/1.5 is the last lens designed for Canon by Nippon Kogaku (did I kill the spelling?). They offered briefly a 50/1.5 for the Nikon RF cameras, but quickly redesigned it with a max ap of 1.4 claiming the lead in the speed wars. Chronologically the Nikkor 50/2 came before the 50/1.4 I think, and yes, is a very true Sonnar clone.
raid
Dad Photographer
rover said:Yes, Sonnars
Canon 50/1.5
Nikkor 50/2
Jupiter 8
(short that is)
I have the last two of that above list. I may one day get a vintage Canon 50/1.5 because it is made by Canon or a Heliar 50/3.5 for its sharpness.
Raid
raid
Dad Photographer
back alley said:i didn't realize the nikkor 50/2 was a sonnar...maybe i should have traded with ray when he wanted to...damn!
Joe,
The Nikkor 50/2 is awesome. There is no need for the Nikkor 50/1.4.
Raid
raid amin said:Joe,
The Nikkor 50/2 is awesome. There is no need for the Nikkor 50/1.4.
Raid
I will get a Nikkor 50/1.4 when I splurge for a Nikkon RF camera, but I agree, the 50/2, Canon 50/1.5 and 1.4 suit me just fine for old fast glass.
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