Windwalker57
Established
Just a heads up if anyone is looking for this lens, I am tempted to bid only because the current bid is so low. Take a look, 120168662328 , on the bay. Could be a bargain!
Windwalker57
Established
So, even for $1 nobody is interested in this lens? Is this lens that bad?
peter_n
Veteran
Could be. Looks like a genuine auction at a quick glance. I would do due diligence on the seller before bidding though. This lens is worth a lot of money, expect to see the price go through the roof in the last minute of bidding.
foto_fool
Well-known
Could be a BARGAIN? HA! This is a Leica collector's wet dream. And the "contact me before bidding..." note is a red flag.
- John
- John
Windwalker57
Established
Ouch!!!
Didn't see that "contact me", good thing I wasn't tempted to bid. Actually, I never heard of a f1.2 Noctilux, I thought and have only seen f1's. That rare.
So, BEWARE!
My apologies for tempting anyone, looks like this is a scam!
Didn't see that "contact me", good thing I wasn't tempted to bid. Actually, I never heard of a f1.2 Noctilux, I thought and have only seen f1's. That rare.
So, BEWARE!
My apologies for tempting anyone, looks like this is a scam!
Matthew Allen
Well-known
Huh? Why do you think this is a scam? The seller has decent feedback and a long track record. He probably wants people to email him so that he's fairly sure they are genuinely interested. I can understand this as high value items like the Noctilux are more likely to attract dodgy bidders.
Matthew
EDIT: On reflection, you are probably right. Please disregard my comment above.
Matthew
EDIT: On reflection, you are probably right. Please disregard my comment above.
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Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
You realize this means you'll end up having to buy it, unless somebody bids $1 Million on it, right? Or is there a loophole Ich about know kein?endustry said:So, anyway, I bid $999,999.99 on the lens to keep any suckers from being able to actually "buy" it.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Mmmmm. Interesting. Wise decision you make. In mind that I shall keep.
Windwalker57
Established
This auction (and now me) has very bad Karma. Just after reading the last post, the postman knock at the door to pick up the packages I was shipping out to my *bay customers. The guy knocks over an antique lamp and watches it smash. Before leaving, he asks if I have any diecast jets for sale, no apologies. My loss = $1500. No profit this month...
I hope this *bay hijacker gets his! And he can have his bad Karma back!!!!
I hope this *bay hijacker gets his! And he can have his bad Karma back!!!!
csxcnj
Well-known
I checked previous sales from the "seller" and the REAL seller's auction pages are very detailed with lots of graphics. Also, he writes well, correct syntax etc. Tried to contact the real owner of the account but Ebay blocks me from doing that...good ol' ebay.......
peter_n
Veteran
Very interesting. Obviously my glance was way too quick...
Windwalker57
Established
I am a seller on !bay, and now I am becoming uncomfortable with the current climate as regards to fraud, the fees, and the bother. I get spam emails, requests to end early and bids from inactive accounts. I had one guy use the item I sold him for the weekend and then ask me for a refund, claimed he didn't need it anymore.
Back on topic, I was almost suckered into this scam. I was willing to buy it cheap (I don't really need it) and relist it to make a potentially big profit. Of all the odd things I have seen on ebbay, this one has scared me because of how close I came to being sucked in. I learned my lesson, today.
Back on topic, I was almost suckered into this scam. I was willing to buy it cheap (I don't really need it) and relist it to make a potentially big profit. Of all the odd things I have seen on ebbay, this one has scared me because of how close I came to being sucked in. I learned my lesson, today.
Windwalker57
Established
Current bid is up to $10,999 and a new line has been added to the listing "CONTACT ME BEFORE BIDDING TO : chosse98@gmail.com AS I WILL CANCEL THE BID." This was not there last time I looked. I suspect Gabriel M A 's bid will be canceled. Also, he requests that you contact him on an offsite email address, bypassing *bay's system.
cmogi10
Bodhisattva
Hmm...these lenses are nice and expensive though...
Ebay ID: 320166379591
Ebay ID: 320166379591
Parker51
Member
Hi
This noctilux was on ebay two weeks ago.
By curiosity i ask the seller a question ( twice ) no answer.
I bid for 750$ by curiosity.
Somebody win with a 3400$ bid
Two days after iI get a "second chance " mail from ebay.
I had 24 h to pay 750$ and the lens will be mine....
So it's really a SCAM
This noctilux was on ebay two weeks ago.
By curiosity i ask the seller a question ( twice ) no answer.
I bid for 750$ by curiosity.
Somebody win with a 3400$ bid
Two days after iI get a "second chance " mail from ebay.
I had 24 h to pay 750$ and the lens will be mine....
So it's really a SCAM
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Windwalker57 said:Current bid is up to $10,999 and a new line has been added to the listing "CONTACT ME BEFORE BIDDING TO : chosse98@gmail.com AS I WILL CANCEL THE BID." This was not there last time I looked. I suspect Gabriel M A 's bid will be canceled. Also, he requests that you contact him on an offsite email address, bypassing *bay's system.
Windwalker57
Established
Gabriel M.A. said:I've bid on this item?? I'm more senile than my memory had forgotten to lead me to believe...
OOPS! I did confuse you with another poster.
Windwalker57
Established
The postman never offered too or any comment on the lamp. He wanted to talk about an item he'd been looking for on *bay, asking if I had one or could get it for him. I examined the lamp after he left and discovered the irreplaceable glass shade has been broken.ErikFive said:If he broke your lamp, why doesnt he have to pay?
foto_fool
Well-known
Too bad the deal was a scam - if the seller was for real he could have pocketed $10,600. Erik's $4K with some irrational exuberance!
- John
- John
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Customer Service in this country is dead.endustry said:So, three days after I spoke with two Ebay reps about this auction and they did nothing to end it despite all of the obvious evidence of fraud, I receive this:
"The following is a notice from eBay Trust & Safety regarding:
Item Number - 120168662328
Item Title - Leica 50mm f1.2 Noctilux Lens,Box,Mint,M2,M3,M4,M5!
Our records show that you placed a bid on this item. We removed this item from the Site and cancelled your bid because it appears that the seller's account has been compromised and used by an unauthorized third party."
Duh.
That is also why I don't feel sorry for big companies that complain about fraud-related losses. They are part of the problem. At least in this case they followed-up. Eventually. Imagine if you hadn't persisted despite their roadblocks; somebody would have already paid, and the seller would have happily parted with the money.
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