Return of Agfa paper and films to market.

We received our test package of the new Adox version of Agfa MCC 111 paper today. I just emerged bleary-eyed from the darkroom -- this paper is amazingly close to the Agfa paper. The paper base is very slightly whiter, the paper seems to print maybe a quarter-grade harder, otherwise it appears identical to the old Agfa paper.

This is just fantastic -- a great thing to see the resurrection of such a good B+W paper.
 
Wonderful news Sanders !!!! I am an Ilford paper fan, but it is so good to hear this New "Old" paper is all that we expected and more.....

Regards, John.

PS, Welcome to RFF. I have seen you on APUG and it's good to meet you here too..
 
Whew! My Adox 8x10 is on its way

Whew! My Adox 8x10 is on its way

I just finished my last box of 8.5x11 MCP312 (agfa) and a new box of 100 8x10 Adox MCP310 is on the way - can't wait to see how it compares.
 
Thanks for the info and link to Adox's site. I noticed while browsing that Adox CHS was formally Efke which answers a question for me regarding developing of CHS. I'm about to start shooting some CHS but couldn't find any developing info for Rodnal and this film and didn't want to waste film finding a baseline to start from.
 
I don't know what the film that Silverprint has really is. Mirko from Fotoimpex who is managing the development of the new versions of the Agfa films has been very clear here:
http://www.apug.org/forums/forum249/78063-apx-400-a.html
there is new 400 speed film available but the 100 speed has not been produced yet; Adox/Fotoimpex and their partners are waiting for the existing stocks to be sold so that they are not competing with existing low-price stock of old APX. So it's not 'new' APX 100 from them.

Marty
 
Hi Marty,

Freakscene said:
I don't know what the film that Silverprint has really is.
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Most probably it's still from the last stock of APX from 2005, coated in Leverkusen.
Lupus Imaging in Cologne, Germany, who has licensed the name AgfaPhoto for film selling from the AgfaPhoto Holding (which has survived and has nothing to do with Agfa-Gevaert in Belgium www.agfa.com ), has bought lots of the remaining stock of the last coatings in Leverkusen.
I think they are still taking old stock (master rolls) out of the freezer, cutting and packing them and put an expiry date of two years on it.
So, this is not new coated film, but only new cut and packed film from the freezer.

Freakscene said:
Mirko from Fotoimpex who is managing the development of the new versions of the Agfa films has been very clear here:
http://www.apug.org/forums/forum249/78063-apx-400-a.html
there is new 400 speed film available but the 100 speed has not been produced yet; Adox/Fotoimpex and their partners are waiting for the existing stocks to be sold so that they are not competing with existing low-price stock of old APX. So it's not 'new' APX 100 from them.

Marty
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That's right. Any real new coatings will come from InovisCoat ( www.inoviscoat.de ). That is the company with former Agfa engineers who are doing the coatings of MCP, MCC, Pan 25 and in future the coatings of Adox Pan 400 and 100 for Adox (Adox has no own coating capabilities, they will do the cutting and packing).

Cheers, Jan
 
Hi Jan,

HHPhoto said:
Most probably it's still from the last stock of APX from 2005, coated in Leverkusen.
Lupus Imaging in Cologne, Germany, who has licensed the name AgfaPhoto for film selling from the AgfaPhoto Holding (which has survived and has nothing to do with Agfa-Gevaert in Belgium www.agfa.com ), has bought lots of the remaining stock of the last coatings in Leverkusen.
I think they are still taking old stock (master rolls) out of the freezer, cutting and packing them and put an expiry date of two years on it.
So, this is not new coated film, but only new cut and packed film from the freezer.
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Thanks. That's what I thought but the newest of the 'last batch' APX 100 I've seen had an 11/10 expiry. I guess the master rolls might have been in a huge cold store somewhere.

It's nice film anyway.

Marty
 
from an e-mail I got from fellow RFF-member and fotohuisRoVo owner Robert Vonk today:
Dear customer,

Some new products:

B&W:
Rollei Retro 100 Tonal (PO100C) is available in 35mm, 120 roll film, and 4x5"- 8x10" sheet film. A real Orthopan film. Rollei RPX 100, RPX 400 the successor of the APX (Agfa Photo) films but with a small English gene.
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Are these Rollei films also from the same batch then?

I've been shooting Rollei Retro 100 and 400 and developing in Rodinal lately and the combination is just so nice! Would love to use those Agfa films as a substiture, since Rollei Retro running out is speculated already.
 
Just ordered 10 rolls of Acros 100 120. Its been increasingly difficult to find. I didn´t know it was for the chop.
 
Ezzie said:
Just ordered 10 rolls of Acros 100 120. Its been increasingly difficult to find. I didn´t know it was for the chop.
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If you mean it's going to be discontinued, it isn't. At least as far as Fuji are telling us. There has been a pack size change but it's still available and there are no announcements from Fuji that it will be discontinued. But there are persistent, so far incorrect, internet rumours.

Marty
 
buzzardkid said:
from an e-mail I got from fellow RFF-member and fotohuisRoVo owner Robert Vonk today:

Are these Rollei films also from the same batch then?

I've been shooting Rollei Retro 100 and 400 and developing in Rodinal lately and the combination is just so nice! Would love to use those Agfa films as a substiture, since Rollei Retro running out is speculated already.
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No.

According to Robert, the Retro 100 Tonal is a Maco film, manufactured by Agfa (presumably Agfa Gevaert), with Efke involvement. Photostar will do the 35mm slittling, perforating and manufacture of the cassettes.

The RPX films are a collaboration between Ilford/Harman, Efke and Rollei-Maco.

It seems that the film at Silverprint is more of the "last batch" APX100, but this is unconfirmed.

Marty
 
Freakscene I was not specific enough, sorry. I was wondering if the Rollei Retro and rollei RPX are in some way related.

Aaccording to Robert, who has proven to be in the know often, they both are acetate based and panchromatic, and the Rollei Retro emulsion was 1:1 the same as the Agfa APX emulsions. Cconfiguration of films was done in Germany and Spain for 35mm and by Efke in Croatia for 120 film.

The RPX might be newly mixed emulsions of the same formula, or newly mixed with a slightly different formula. No decisive answer on that yet.

I will be stocking up on Rollei Retro 100 and 400, that stuff is magical in Rodinal.
 
Hi Marty,

Freakscene said:
According to Robert, the Retro 100 Tonal is a Maco film, manufactured by Agfa (presumably Agfa Gevaert), with Efke involvement. Photostar will do the 35mm slittling, perforating and manufacture of the cassettes.
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It's the other way round, Retro 100 Tonal is coated by Fotokemika/Efke, with some help (raw materials) from Agfa-Gevaert. Efke 100 film and Retro 100 Tonal are "brothers" (in summer one of the Maco guys said that in a german forum if I remember right). I have compared both and they are quite similar, but each with its own charakter.
The most significant difference is colour sensitization, Tonal being more orthopanchromatic with darker reds.
Nice film with nice tonality, but using demi water for development is recommended for avoiding spots.

Cheers, Jan
 
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