That sinking Dollar feeling again! M9 prices?

Roger Hicks said:
Hard to avoid political issues here.

There's an unpopular and probably uwinnable war in Afghanistan (no-one has ever won a war in Afghanistan yet -- check your history), and considerable antipathy to the idea that the richest and most powerful country in the world might be able to afford health care for all its citizens.

R.
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Yes, never won in Afghanistan.
Your health care remark is way off base.

Poor fiscal policy will lead to a major devaluation of the dollar. The "Richest Country" is over-leveraged and should the Chinese stop financing our debt we will be in a world of hurt. Future inflation might make Jimmy Carter days look like the good ole days. Perhaps manufacturers will then begin to make things for export. Hard times ahead and very high camera prices. Both Germany and Japan currently have better fiscal policies.

If you are in the U.S., buy'em while you can.
 
I have a piece of dental equipment designed in the USA and built in Germany. Dodgy. In my field American products are simple, robust, old-fashioned and well built.
 
bwcolor said:
Yes, never won in Afghanistan.
Your health care remark is way off base.

Poor fiscal policy will lead to a major devaluation of the dollar. The "Richest Country" is over-leveraged and should the Chinese stop financing our debt we will be in a world of hurt. Future inflation might make Jimmy Carter days look like the good ole days. Perhaps manufacturers will then begin to make things for export. Hard times ahead and very high camera prices. Both Germany and Japan currently have better fiscal policies.

If you are in the U.S., buy'em while you can.
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No dispute there (the highlighted part), but equally, so are most other places too.

I've been betting on the euro since it started. And I've been right in the long run (anything over about 6 months at a stretch). I just wish I'd placed bigger bets.

When the Chinese Empire falls apart -- as I believe it will, because 60% of the land area claimed by the Empire is non-Han Chinese, and even Han China embraces several laguages that are not mutually comprehensible -- the midden may really hit the windmill.

Cheers,

R.
 
jaapv said:
I have a piece of dental equipment designed in the USA and built in Germany. Dodgy. In my field American products are simple, robust, old-fashioned and well built.
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Well, that's true of many American products in many fields. There's also some real rubbish, and some world beaters.

Tashi delek,

R.
 
Roger Hicks said:
When the Chinese Empire falls apart -- as I believe it will, because 60% of the land area claimed by the Empire is non-Han Chinese, and even Han China embraces several laguages that are not mutually comprehensible -- the midden may really hit the windmill.
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Every empire falls at some point. When either the American or Chinese empires (as we know them today) fall, we all may be in for a world of hurt unless another power emerges.
 
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jaapv said:
I have a piece of dental equipment designed in the USA and built in Germany. Dodgy. In my field American products are simple, robust, old-fashioned and well built.
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I'd say that's spot-on. The only equipment I have that has survived service-free since my first year in practice 31 years ago are American-made. That said, I use German (Schick) handpieces and Vita ovens and my microscopes are a Leica and a Meiiji. (Although I believe the Leica scope is actually made here, but perhaps not the optics themselves).
 
DerekF said:
Every empire falls at some point. When either the American or Chinese empires (as we know them today) fall, we may be all be in for a world of hurt unless another power emerges.
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It may already be here, unrecognized: a truly voluntary union, despite the squabbles provoked by the gutter press in its constituent countries.

It's the European Union.

Cheers,

R.
 
Roger Hicks said:
It may already be here, unrecognized: a truly voluntary union, despite the squabbles provoked by the gutter press in its constituent countries.

It's the European Union.

Cheers,

R.
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Dear Roger

What has this line of discussion got to do with photography in general or rangefinders in particular?

Richard
 
Roger Hicks said:
I only said may.

But I have more faith in the EU than in the Book of Daniel, which is major-league squirrel-time, and shouldn't even be in the Apocrypha in my reckoning.

Cheers,

R.
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The whole EU thing has been tried many times. Reckon what you want. Will never work.
 
Roger Hicks said:
Dear Richard,

Consider where Leicas are made...

Cheers,

R.
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Dear Roger
In that case perhaps you should consider who will be buying Leicas. No sales = no manufacture. Markets are global.
However I must say that I am a little surpised at you expressing these views here. This is a truly international site and at its best when discussing photography.

Best wishes

Richard
 
Jake: ever been to Solms? And besides, Portugal is in Europe.

Fred: The only way to counter your absurdly parochial and inflammatory statement is to reply, "As distinct from Americans, who don't care who they kill as long as they're not Americans" I know that's rubbish, but it's the same sort of rubbish as lumping all Europeans together as homicidal maniacs.

Richard: The original question was about another empire, and the likelihood of major global problems without at least one major world power. What was your point?

Cheers,

Roger
 
Richard Marks said:
Dear Roger
In that case perhaps you should consider who will be buying Leicas. No sales = no manufacture. Markets are global.
However I must say that I am a little surpised at you expressing these views here. This is a truly international site and at its best when discussing photography.

Best wishes

Richard
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Richard: I agree with you. This is an international site. In the end,
political bashing and proselytizing only serve to inflame and detract
from the experience. :(

Regards,
Al
 
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