filmfan
Well-known
Just buy the products that Leica makes that will last. Buying an M8 is like buying a porsche boxter or cayman (not a real porsche...)-- yes i know this analogy does not hold with concern to price, but you get what i'm saying...
Finder
Veteran
I believe the battery is warranted for 8 years/100,000 miles though some states may extend that to 150,000 miles. An unwarranted battery replacement is likely to cost more than the value of the car. As for the battery, it is a toxic cesspool and the future costs of disposal are unknown.
The Prius battery has a $200 bounty on it--Toyota will buy it back and it is 100% recyclable. In the ten years the Prius has been on the road, not one battery has been replaced from wear and tear. The battery cost continues to fall-three years ago it was $8,000 for a complete new battery. Neither you nor I know the cost of the replacement by time it is needed or if it is needed. I am quite happy to drive this car for 38 years.
emraphoto
Veteran
I don't know what is more dissapointing, that Leica (NJ and Solms wear the same name tag) continue to allow this BS customer service to continue or some posters thinly veiled attacks on the OP's story and decisions.
It was a Story very similar to this that cleared up Leica's role in my digital kit bag.
It was a Story very similar to this that cleared up Leica's role in my digital kit bag.
sqjaw
sqjaw = Mr.Lauren MacInto
The best time to Complain about a Faulty product is when the Store is full of customers < Believe me it works Great, and sales people move!
filmfan
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Oh and by the way, the Prius is worse for the environment than an SUV due to the process of mining nickle (used in the battery) in Canada (which has its own eco footprint). People seldom realize this... Only Americans buy the Prius because we are ignorant. You wont find a single Prius anywhere else but in America (which is typical).
EDIT: I retract the harsh wording (as well as the absolutist terminology) of my last point, however I do believe there is somewhat of a point still there...
EDIT: I retract the harsh wording (as well as the absolutist terminology) of my last point, however I do believe there is somewhat of a point still there...
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bob338
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Only Americans buy the Prius because we are ignorant.
what a lovely sweeping statement.
gdi
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. Only Americans buy the Prius because we are ignorant. You wont find a single Prius anywhere else but in America (which is typical).
Ignorance can be cured - less than 2/3 of the Prius sales are in the US.
http://www.avoid-global-warming.com/TB/?P=2792
filmfan
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what a lovely sweeping statement.
Thanks. Do you own a Prius?
Really, I am just down on my country these days. Maybe this was just a way to vent. My point still remains however about the Prius.
Ignorance can be cured - less than 2/3 of the Prius sales are in the US.
I have been traveling all around the world recently and was speaking from personal experience only. After all, I am an American too.
It's always great when only the side comments are attacked and not the real issue.
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bob338
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Thanks. Do you own a Prius?
no, do you? if only ignorant Americans buy them, it stands to reason that you would have a fleet...
bob
filmfan
Well-known
no, do you? if only ignorant Americans buy them, it stands to reason that you would have a fleet...
bob
Wow Bob. Come on. Be reasonable here.
I love humans.
Let's just get back to discussing Leicas. Sorry I said anything. I really am.
bob338
Well-known
Thanks. Do you own a Prius?
Really, I am just down on my country these days. Maybe this was just a way to vent. My point still remains however about the Prius.
I have been traveling all around the world recently and was speaking from personal experience only. After all, I am an American too.
It's always great when only the side comments are attacked and not the real issue.
you've been travelling around the world and you're down on the US when you get back? why are you still here?
oh yeah, western europe is not 'the world.'
bob
gdi
Veteran
Thanks. Do you own a Prius?
Really, I am just down on my country these days. Maybe this was just a way to vent. My point still remains however about the Prius.
I have been traveling all around the world recently and was speaking from personal experience only. After all, I am an American too.
It's always great when only the side comments are attacked and not the real issue.
If the comment were a simple aside and not a insult I doubt anyone would bother to respond. To expect to make that statement to go unchallenged is bit naive.
bob338
Well-known
Wow Bob. Come on. Be reasonable here.
I love humans.
sometimes it's just too easy to take the bait...my 2 year old is STILL awake(9:45pm) and my 6 month old is teething and grumpy. don't take any of this too personally...
bob
jan normandale
Film is the other way
I love this thread it's like a package containing two Twinkies
filmfan
Well-known
Okay okay... I admitted it was a vented comment. I am just trying to stir things up a bit. Maybe I went too far. I edited my previous (controversial) post with a disclaimer of sorts to clear it up.
No problem Bob. Thanks for the PM.
So, back to the real important issues of life: Anyone else sick of Leica's customer service?
sometimes it's just too easy to take the bait...my 2 year old is STILL awake(9:45pm) and my 6 month old is teething and grumpy. don't take any of this too personally...
bob
No problem Bob. Thanks for the PM.
So, back to the real important issues of life: Anyone else sick of Leica's customer service?
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Z
zeezea
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Okay okay... I admitted it was a vented comment. Geez. What else do you want me to say? I am just trying to stir things up a bit. Maybe I went too far.
Anyone else sick of Leica's customer service?
I liked the earlier version of this post that you`ve edited (at least twice)
before the "just trying to stir things up" part. And that`s the trouble around
here lately - people trying to stir shyte and trolling. At least go to the Off
Topic Forum for that and give the rest of us a break.
Regards,
Al
filmfan
Well-known
I liked the earlier version of this post that you`ve edited (at least twice)
before the "just trying to stir things up" part. And that`s the trouble around
here lately - people trying to stir shyte and trolling. At least go to the Off
Topic Forum for that and give the rest of us a break.
Regards,
Al
I am sorry for ruining your day
Z
zeezea
Guest
I am sorry for ruining your day![]()
You are not ruining my day. You are just helping to ruin this Forum
Regards,
Al
filmfan
Well-known
You are not ruining my day. You are just helping to ruin this Forum
Regards,
Al
I have received more PMs containing 'thank you for keeping this forum funny' (even from those who originally attacked my post) than I have from those who have been hurt by this sensitive discussion.
Therefore, I believe you may be incorrect.
Woops:bang:
So, who else is through with Leica? (let's get back to the topic)
bob338
Well-known
You are not ruining my day. You are just helping to ruin this Forum
Regards,
Al
this forum has plenty of more vocal people 'ruining' it.
this thread was a joke to begin with and has taken so many left turns that it has nothing to do with the original post anymore. someone crying that Leica didn't meet their expectations again... guess what? they'll never meet everyone's expectations.
bob
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