Ezzie
E. D. Russell Roberts
Yes we did. We also have seem the press release on this camera where Fuji state that the camera is targeted for the pro and serious enthusiast photographers.You didn't notice I was just talking about Fuji's own naming...
Cheers,
Juan
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urban_alchemist
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You didn't notice I was just talking about Fuji's own naming...
Cheers,
Juan
Yeah... cos it iz all aboutz de branding. Innit.
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Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
Well, if Mr. Rockwell talks about it...we're all settled then.
When you say things about "fools' money," someone is bound to think you're implying something about them personally. Very few people enjoy being called a fool...no one I know in fact.
Absolutely no, Steve... I consider all of us here on RFF have certain experience in photography and know how to use any camera even if it's not the most powerful tool... I was referring to the huge amount of people that will buy the X100 and really don't care about photography: at least not as much as all of us who photograph constantly long ago with different cameras. I was not talking about RFF or any other forum members but about the massive buyers... Those who decide if buying or not from an ad...
Cheers,
Juan
BillBingham2
Registered User
Point and Shoot?
Yup, she is not EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens), not a rangefinder (as we have NO idea of how she will focus in manual mode), not an SLR, not 120 folder or TLR, not M4/3, so for now it's P&S. The X1 from leica is the same, as would the O-Series also from Leica.
I used to think it was wrong, but my GRD III lives there and it's just as happy as if it had it's own category. Kit's just a way to categorize stuff, nothing more, nothing less.
B2 (;->
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
S3 and S5 are miles above the X100 as photographic tools... IQ is what brochures talk about to get fools' money... Even Mr. Rockwell talks about it... The X100 is a nice camera, but a very weak tool for several photographic fields...
Cheers,
Juan
The X100 is 6 months away from release and we haven't even seen any photos from production unit. As far as the form factor/system goes, why are we comparing X100 to S5? It's like saying "Hexar AF is a very week tool compared to Nikon F100." Sure that's totally true if you need to do everything with one camera. Putting SLR and fixed lens "P&S" into one "photographic tool" bucket is a bit of stretch, don't you think? Is it weather-proof metal body with xxfps capability that defines "pro" camera? Photography as profession is a bit too broad to call one type of camera "pro" camera and others "not pro"?
I'm still not getting "pro vs not-pro" thing.
nico
Well-known
Wow! ... an interesting news transformed in just 2 days in such a boring thread ...

I was referring to the huge amount of people that will buy the X100 and really don't care about photography:
I'm not so convinced this is going to be a huge consumer camera. Consumers who don't know much about photography, but want to get something "pro" always end up with a DSLR because they associate those types of cameras with seriousness. Additionally, this isn't a point and shoot that fits in your pocket.
cny3123
Established
Sooo… about that X100… I want it 
tapesonthefloor
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Sooo… about that X100… I want it![]()
I think I might want it, too.
See... this is nice.
doolittle
Well-known
Wow! ... an interesting news transformed in just 2 days in such a boring thread ...![]()
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Woody Allen's Second Law of Thermodynamics springs to mind.
Anyway, it's just a camera, which won't be available for 6 months or so. Move along folks, move along. Nothing to see here
tapesonthefloor
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Since this is a camera that is valiantly attempting to bring the viewfinder back into the photographic mainstream, I have a quick aside: does anyone here actually like composing at arm's length using a screen? I mean, is there anybody here who prefers it to a viewfinder?
Ezzie
E. D. Russell Roberts
No, hate it. Can't stand VF-less cameras.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
Since this is a camera that is valiantly attempting to bring the viewfinder back into the photographic mainstream, I have a quick aside: does anyone here actually like composing at arm's length using a screen? I mean, is there anybody here who prefers it to a viewfinder?
HATE using the screen in the back...just hate it.
Ezzie
E. D. Russell Roberts
6 months is ample time, I hope, to convince the wife she wants one to evolve her knowledge of the art of photography. Sounds like a good strategy to me.
v_roma
Well-known
Same here. VF is key.
I really just logged on to say that this seems to be the digital camera I've been waiting for. It's like they asked me what I wanted in a camera and then went to work making it happen
I'm going to try not to get too excited until more information comes out (maybe too late about the whole getting excited thing). The shutter lag could be atrocious, I guess, which is one of the few things that would turn me off this camera but it's also not very likely. Anyway, 6 months away is not such a bad thing. Gives me time to save up.
I really just logged on to say that this seems to be the digital camera I've been waiting for. It's like they asked me what I wanted in a camera and then went to work making it happen
Paul T.
Veteran
It's intirguing in a way that this has taken so long - the G9/10/11 gained a lot of sales on the basis of a (by traditional standards, lousy) optical viewfinder. I don't quite see why no one has done this before - altho I'm glad to see that Fuji have reworked this old concept. The Hexar's shrinking and parallax-corrected framelines were terrific, but to augment those with digital information is a terrific idea.
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
Another huge preference on eye-level VF. The reason why I finally parted with E-PL1 was the lack viewfinder without using that gigantic external EVF.
I really hope this E/OVF thing takes off. I'd love to see VF in more large sensor compacts.
I really hope this E/OVF thing takes off. I'd love to see VF in more large sensor compacts.
Since this is a camera that is valiantly attempting to bring the viewfinder back into the photographic mainstream, I have a quick aside: does anyone here actually like composing at arm's length using a screen? I mean, is there anybody here who prefers it to a viewfinder?
I prefer it to an SLR, but not to a rangefinder. That said, I don't use the LCD at arm's length like a zombie... I use it about 5-7 inches from my face.
andersju
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Some do. Mitch Alland comes to mind. He's been using Ricoh GRD cameras for a long time; see this thread and scroll down to "LCD versus viewfinder" for his take on it.Since this is a camera that is valiantly attempting to bring the viewfinder back into the photographic mainstream, I have a quick aside: does anyone here actually like composing at arm's length using a screen? I mean, is there anybody here who prefers it to a viewfinder?
ferider
Veteran
It's intirguing in a way that this has taken so long - the G9/10/11 gained a lot of sales on the basis of a (by traditional standards, lousy) optical viewfinder. I don't quite see why no one has done this before - altho I'm glad to see that Fuji have reworked this old concept. The Hexar's shrinking and parallax-corrected framelines were terrific, but to augment those with digital information is a terrific idea.
Agree, Paul; the Fuji's new viewfinder is the biggest deal. Already in early 2008 we were discussing the possibility, in connection to rumours about a new Nikon camera (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55178, posts 253/254).
It's about time. Hopefully it will lead the way to the development of other cameras with similar finder, full frame sensor, etc.
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