Fuji X100 Digital SOMETHING from Fujifilm

[splitimageview]

Hey Brian, thanks for posting the ad for the S2. It was my first pro camera. I was 14. 🙂

As far as using the LCD for framing, there are some circumstances where that comes in handy, actually...on cams that have adjustable screens, for high- or low-angle photos. Also, in the case where you want to be invisible, no one pays attention to those non-pro cameras. 🙂

 

[jsrockit]

Lol . . . I'm sorry, but at $1000, unless if the thing is DOA, you must be borderline retarded or sucking too much you-know-what from someone that works at Leica to buy a X1 over this.

Even as a user and lover of the Leica X1, I still have to agree with you. I love the X1, but I have a feeling I'm going to love having one of these around as well.

 

[jrv]

Anyway, the consumer sensors are closing in on what is physically possible faster than many realise.

Another area where cheap consumer cameras are reaching limits is pixel density. I rarely see it mentioned, but pixels are already only a couple of times larger than the wavelength of deep red.

It will be a big deal when someone figures out how to replace the Bayer filter array with some other prism arrangement or such. Nikon's patent on a Bayer prism matrix isn't it (the patent is absurdly un-manufacturable but maybe someone will find a reasonable *compact* solution that can actually be fabricated).

 

[Sonnar Brian]

My Fuji GA series cameras had moving frame lines to compensate for parallax..
p.

Did it also compensate for Field-of-View at close distance? The Konica framelines moved to compensate for parallax, and changed size to compensate for distance. This is the "infamous" M8 frameline issue, the framelines are set for close-distance and do not show the entire frame as captured at distance. The 90mm framelines on my M8 are perfect for my Nikkor 105. So "I'm Okay" with it.

The Konica style framelines would have solved the problem.

 

[Sonnar Brian]

Hey Brian, thanks for posting the ad for the S2. It was my first pro camera. I was 14. 🙂

I went with the Minolta Hi-Matic 9, when I was 11. The lens on the HM-9 is as good as the S2. The meter is still accurate on my HM-9, bought 42 years ago.

 

[bensyverson]

Since the VF is hybrid, I would imagine that the framelines would both move for parallax and change size. It's just a software tweak at that point.

 

[Japan---Exposures]

It's a good camera for sure, but part why it is so "good" is because the industry spent 10 or more years destroying everything that's good about a non SLR type camera. The bar hangs pretty low by now and as we can see a good VF (concept) and a lens that's not f4.5 can get a lot of attention.

Perhaps in five years we will see someone "innovating" with manual focus?

As for timing, the Japanese release says spring 2011. Not Q1 or Q2. Often spring lasts until May, could be almost a year away depending where you are.

 

[dazedgonebye]

It's a good camera for sure, but part why it is so "good" is because the industry spent 10 or more years destroying everything that's good about a non SLR type camera. The bar hangs pretty low by now and as we can see a good VF (concept) and a lens that's not f4.5 can get a lot of attention.

Perhaps in five years we will see someone "innovating" with manual focus?

As for timing, the Japanese release says spring 2011. Not Q1 or Q2. Often spring lasts until May, could be almost a year away depending where you are.

It is strange that it has taken so long for someone to build a camera pretty much anyone here could have asked for so long ago.

 

[Japan---Exposures]

It is strange that it has taken so long for someone to build a camera pretty much anyone here could have asked for so long ago.

Do you really think RFF is a fair representation of the consumer digital compact camera market?

Most people don't care, but now that the market gets saturated of course they are looking at niches.

 

[remegius]

Do you really think RFF is a fair representation of the consumer digital compact camera market?

Most people don't care, but now that the market gets saturated of course they are looking at niches.

Good point. I wonder when we will begin to hear from the other players?

Cheers...

Rem

 

[Frankie]

So, back to the X100:

MSRP: $1000, announced at Fuji press conference [Source: BJP video]

Features [important to me]:

• Favorite functions assignable (?): to Fn button [left of shutter release]
• Manual aperture selection: f2~16 + A
• Manual shutter speed selection: B~1/4000 + A
• Manual MF, AF-S, AF-C selection [body left edge]
• Manual AFL/AEL [back/right]
• Manual exposure compensation: +/- 2-stops in 1/3 stop
• E/OVF [0.5X]: 90% frameline coverage projected in OVF and 100% in EVF mode
• Displayable dataset: so far seen include WB, exp#, L/F (?), ISO, Shutter speed, f-stop, histogram, exposure compensation, DoF/distance scale (also displayable in LCD) [No doubt user selectable.]
• DISP/BACK button toggles dataset display/none in OVF
• DoF range coupled with aperture selected
• 23mm f2.0 lens for APSC [=35mm; if digitally cropped to 6Mp = 46mm]
• ISO 200 to 6400 [+/-1 stop boost to ISO 100~12,800 possible]
• AF + manual focusing [via lens focusing ring]
• Standard tripod socket in bottom centre
• HDMI and mini USB port access door [body right]; battery/SD card hatch [bottom/right]
• Magnesium body
• "Convenient command lever" [function unknown] at right thumb position
• Buttons for direct WB and RAW access
• Standard threaded cable release in shutter button
• Filter size: 46mm [measured, to be confirmed]
• Flange to sensor distance: 26mm [measured, to be confirmed]

$1000 is cheap, perhaps too cheap... Journalists had described the camera as not light, and solid as a stone.

Had this camera been available when I purchased the ZI+CV40/1.4 a couple of years ago, Fuji wins...my one camera/lens travel outfit.

Being digital, it would have fully fulfilled my shoot freely desire, no film/processing recurring costs and airport worries...and thus no incentive for looking into retrofitting the M.

The dM-retrofit project is hereby pronounced dead...and goodbye to all my critics.

My M2, M6, R-D1, ZI will soon be on eBay; as would the CV 25/4, 40/1.4, 50/2.5 and M-Rokkor 90/4...also most of my Nikon family members [5 of the 8 cameras and 11 of the 14 lenses].

 

[gavinlg]

If it truly does end up being $1000 I'll eat my hat... And I will definitely buy one.

 

[dazedgonebye]

Do you really think RFF is a fair representation of the consumer digital compact camera market?

Most people don't care, but now that the market gets saturated of course they are looking at niches.

I think that's partially it, but also, I think they just kinda went where the technology and competition took them.
m4/3rds gave rise to EVIL cameras and they started garnering market share. The idea of a small camera that dispensed with the big hump and mirror has its appeal (as all of us here already knew). The someone realized, "hey wouldn't it be cool if we could do without that expensive and less than satisfactory EVF? What the heck, how about an OVF?"
And so it's all evolved around to where we have all been sitting for years.

 

[splitimageview]

Do you really think RFF is a fair representation of the consumer digital compact camera market?

For every RF diehard on RFF, there are many, many more that aren't.

From Fuji's perspective...how are they are going to break the stranglehold that is Canonikosony? Likewise what's the best way to compete against Panolympus?

This product differentiation gives them the opportunity...

 

[ywenz]

Lol . . . I'm sorry, but at $1000, unless if the thing is DOA, you must be borderline ... or sucking too much you-know-what from someone that works at Leica to buy a X1 over this.

Ah but you've forgotten the brand cache that comes with that little red dot. That's worth some dough right there

 

[aizan]

Are those sunglasses back in style...

wayfarers? actually, yes! google it up and be amazed.

 

[BillBingham2]

Fuji has bucked many trends and brought out some very good cameras that often fly smack in the face of what CanonNikonSony does. Some really really good cameras that sell well enough for more interesting niche cameras to come out. This one I believe will hit multiple niches and even at $1K USD will sell pretty well. (Translation add me to the list of folks who are saving up for one)

I like to have the LCD as well as a good bright line finder and the hybrid approach sounds very interesting. I cut my digital teeth on Nikon 900 and 950 which had both. It was very handy to have the LCD part of the body to pivot so I could shoot like it was a TLR at waste level or over my head.

When doing macro shots there is nothing that I have ever used or seen that beats an LCD. Street stuff I like the LCD though I often shoot with it off to have "Plausible Deniability that the camera is on at all".

I’m hoping that it will accept AA or AAA batteries as an emergency alternative to NiMH that she comes with. Wonder what size filter she takes? 52mm perhaps?

B2 (;->

 

[Japan---Exposures]

For every RF diehard on RFF, there are many, many more that aren't.

You mean the diehards falling for what isn't even an RF (but looks like one)? :angel:

 

[PKR]

Did it also compensate for Field-of-View at close distance? The Konica framelines moved to compensate for parallax, and changed size to compensate for distance. This is the "infamous" M8 frameline issue, the framelines are set for close-distance and do not show the entire frame as captured at distance. The 90mm framelines on my M8 are perfect for my Nikkor 105. So "I'm Okay" with it.

The Konica style framelines would have solved the problem.

It was a a GA 690?

I'm trying to remember.. it was a 6x4.5 and had a 60mm lens. The frame lines would move as the focus moved. I can't remember the closest fp, maybe a meter. so from a meter to infinity.. you could see the frame lines adjust in the finder.

 

[alien8]

One thing this thread is...even without all the off-topic stuff....much, much longer than the M9 announcement threads.

It may have already been said, but I suspect that the reason for that is that this camera might actually be within the reach of far more of the members here. When the M9 came out I thought it was somewhat interesting, but I never seriously thought about owning own. This camera is another matter.