I almost never use autofocus...which I find almost never works accurately enough when shooting macros on the forest floor. 
kanzlr
Hexaneur
AF is (almost) never a good choice for macro 
Paul Luscher
Well-known
Absolutely. Being shooting 4/3 with an E-3 for some time, totally OK with it. Figure mirrorless may be the wave of the future--with the technology today, there's no real need to have SLRs with noisy mirrors and bumps on top.
Like the fact that OM-D and similar cameras are smaller than SLRs, and likely to be quieter--something I appreciate, shooting both rangefinders and OMs, and in situations where inconspicuousness is desirable. And less weight is ALWAYS a good thing--used to carry a bag of "some other brand" SLRs, and while they were very solidly constructed, after a day, it felt like you were carrying an anvil in your bag--rough on the old shoulder.....
EVF? Yeah, that may be difficult to adjust to, after years of peering through optical viewfinders. But again, it's change in technology we may all have to get used to--like when SLRs took over from rangefinders. Plus the camera has some other features i find appealing (ISO up to 12,800? Yeah, I can go for that)
Finally--I like the style and the concept. I think this is about as close as us Zuikholics will get to out fantasy of a digital OM....
Like the fact that OM-D and similar cameras are smaller than SLRs, and likely to be quieter--something I appreciate, shooting both rangefinders and OMs, and in situations where inconspicuousness is desirable. And less weight is ALWAYS a good thing--used to carry a bag of "some other brand" SLRs, and while they were very solidly constructed, after a day, it felt like you were carrying an anvil in your bag--rough on the old shoulder.....
EVF? Yeah, that may be difficult to adjust to, after years of peering through optical viewfinders. But again, it's change in technology we may all have to get used to--like when SLRs took over from rangefinders. Plus the camera has some other features i find appealing (ISO up to 12,800? Yeah, I can go for that)
Finally--I like the style and the concept. I think this is about as close as us Zuikholics will get to out fantasy of a digital OM....
EVF won't be hard to get used to once they've mature. They haven't yet IMO. Sure, they are usable, but not a ready to kill OVFs and DSLRs VFs.
Paul Luscher
Well-known
EVF won't be hard to get used to once they've mature. They haven't yet IMO. Sure, they are usable, but not a ready to kill OVFs and DSLRs VFs.
We'll see. The blurbs make it sound like the EVF on this camera is quite good. ( Y'know, I remember the days when people said they wouldn't shoot digital because it didn't have the same resolution as film...and guess where we are today?).
The critical factor for me will be that the OM-D absolutely has to be able to take my E-series lenses--and no crop factor either (shades of the M8). Love that fast glass and need those lenses.
Looks like they have an adapter that will let me do that, and since there APPEARS to be no issue of crop factor, yeah, I'll get the OM-D (anybody wanna buy a used E-3?)....
kanzlr
Hexaneur
I read on some blog that it focusses 4/3 lenses faster than the PEN cameras do, when used with an adapter. Altough the guy said he used a Panasonic 4/3 to m4/3 adapter and that the (new) Olympus one may be even better (but I do not think so, because there is not much the adapter does).
The problem arises from the motors/gearing in the lens being different depending on what kind of focusing is used. Phase-detect like in SLRs are open loop, thus do just one turn and stop, whereas contrast-detect moves the lens back and forth till optimal contrast is achieved. SLR lenses are not geared well for this back and forth focusing, thus are a bit slower on a contrast-detect camera. Same is true for focusing on regular SLRs in live view mode.
The problem arises from the motors/gearing in the lens being different depending on what kind of focusing is used. Phase-detect like in SLRs are open loop, thus do just one turn and stop, whereas contrast-detect moves the lens back and forth till optimal contrast is achieved. SLR lenses are not geared well for this back and forth focusing, thus are a bit slower on a contrast-detect camera. Same is true for focusing on regular SLRs in live view mode.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Anyone in the Dallas-Fort Worth area? Olympus will be showing an E-M5 tomorrow...
Yeah, they picked a good outlet. I like Arlington Camera, one of the (now) rare camera stores where you still can walk in, talk to knowledgeable staff and try stuff.
Problem is, that's quite a drive from where I work in Dallas, and that's a lot of ga$ to burn for just looking at a camera.
I'll wait until April, I know the camera is good, it's better to hold one that's actually mine.
celluloidprop
Well-known
Cool, my hometown camera shop. Hope I can get by in time.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Manually focusing a macro shot of a flower on the forest floor of a coastal rain forest on a gloomy overcast day, then waiting for it for it to momentarily stop waving in the breeze is not a pleasant prospect to me if there's an appreciable lag in the finder image. In fact, it sounds darn near impossible. No thanks.
Maybe pre-compose? it's not like flowers can run around.
Consider bringing alligator clips with some wires to hold flower stems, so they don't sway like crazy.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Cool, my hometown camera shop. Hope I can get by in time.
Share your impression here if you managed to get there and hold it
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Nothing brings out the extremes in both narrow minds and open minds more than a new camera from Olympus. Hardly anything in the middle.
... I suspect that most negative posts, a majority of the posters have never shot either Olympus.
I think this thread illustrates the above point very well
One thing I wll say for Olympus, their cameras have always had CHARACTER--both in the film SLR era, and now in the digital era, too. Pentax is a distant second in this category, and Canon and Nikon and everyone else far behind.
(I'm not counting Leica here, who are sort of in a class of their own...)
Agree, I would just substitute Ricoh for Pentax.
celluloidprop
Well-known
Time stamp says 12AM last night - is it happening now?
celluloidprop
Well-known
Crossed paths w/ the Olympus rep as he was walking out, didn't want to hold him up so I just took a quick look. EVF seems smaller than my X100, maybe a little faster refresh rate (but I didn't see it indoors or low-light). Body feels good, a nice size even without the grip, despite my big hands. AF faster than the X100 IMO, but again I'm used to that in lower light situations.
Rep said he'll be back again Thursday.
Rep said he'll be back again Thursday.
n5jrn
Well-known
Maybe pre-compose? it's not like flowers can run around.
Consider bringing alligator clips with some wires to hold flower stems, so they don't sway like crazy.
Flowers don't run around, but they do definitely wave in the breeze. And how is pre-composing supposed to work when your depth of field is 1/4" at f/16?
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Flowers don't run around, but they do definitely wave in the breeze. And how is pre-composing supposed to work when your depth of field is 1/4" at f/16?
I don't know, I'm sure I'll figure out something when I actually have a flower to shoot.
celluloidprop
Well-known
My solution is to never take macro photographs of flowers.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Crossed paths w/ the Olympus rep as he was walking out, didn't want to hold him up so I just took a quick look. EVF seems smaller than my X100, maybe a little faster refresh rate (but I didn't see it indoors or low-light). Body feels good, a nice size even without the grip, despite my big hands. AF faster than the X100 IMO, but again I'm used to that in lower light situations.
Rep said he'll be back again Thursday.
Thanks for the impression.
roundg
Well-known
If you saw the advertisement of the E400/410 when they came out, they were compared to OM. But they didn't make any business success.
The OM-D is pretty, but for me, it's just another attempt will fail.
The OM-D is pretty, but for me, it's just another attempt will fail.
acheyj
Well-known
It will never be an OM - X or anything like it, The OM series were and are superb but tho I love em film is gone and the D is just another sub sized plastic tool. Maybe a proper sensor ? not sure. Im all digital now and have a micro 4/3 as well as DSLR's and find 4/3 very good for its purpose.
ron
ron
mfunnell
Shaken, so blurred
I've not read the thread, so pardon me if my view matches some that have already been expressed. I'll no doubt look at one some time. I'll check out it's EVF. There's a small but finite chance that the EVF will be "good enough" for me. Pardon me for doubting, though. For me, so far, no EVF I've seen comes anywhere close to an optical finder, and no matter how fast and how much EVFs have improved, I doubt the improvement is enough (yet) to make me even think I might enjoy using one.
...Mike
...Mike
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