Unknown canon rangefinder

[frank-g]

I have just acquired a very rough Canon rangefinder partially dismantled. and missing parts but the finder is intact and the shutter mechanism is all there but the tapes have snapped.. I believe it is pre V possibly a 111 it has the flash shoe on the rewind position, The Serial number is 120983, but I cannot find a reference for this number anywhere..any help advice would be appreciated.

 

[splitimageview]

Post a pic 🙂

 

[frank-g]

Ok i will its a rebuild job

 

[shawn]

Canon Rangefinder ID

From the numbering on this page maybe a IID or IIF.

 

[frank-g]

Cheers that is vert helpful I think it is more likely a 11D as it has A rectangular finder window I am going to post a picture ..

 

[Mackinaw]

Could be one of several. What's the top shutter speed? Is there a side flash rail? What's the top speed on the slow shutter speed dial? The Canon Museum is always helpful.

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Jim B.

 

[frank-g]

The speed dial is missing and so are a number of other parts the flash rail is on the rewind side. cheers i will post a picture it is going to be a resurrection refurbishment project..cheers

 

[frank-g]

This is the Camera in question..

 

[frank-g]

Post a pic 🙂

I have posted some pictures cheers

 

[aw614]

Did you check this site? It comprehensive on several Japanese barnack copies including the Canons

Canon Rangefinder Cameras

Canon rangefinder camera models and history

leica-copies-japan.com

 

[trix4ever]

Did you check this site? It comprehensive on several Japanese barnack copies including the Canons

Canon Rangefinder Cameras

Canon rangefinder camera models and history

leica-copies-japan.com

Well I had a quick look and the serial number is in the range for the Canon IV Sb (or Canon IV S2 for export markets)

Canon IV Sb was the official factory name but for export markets, it was usually called IV S2, e.g. all the English language manuals I have seen refer to the IV S2. It is a Canon IV S with two additions, a slow speed shutter dial lock and X sync for using electronic flash. X sync was engaged by setting the slow speed dial to the new “X” position with the sync speed being around 1/15. Canon IV Sb with f/1.8 50mm Canon lens, note the film take-up spool with spring loaded pop-up grip introduced shortly after release of the Canon III:

 

[frank-g]

Well I had a quick look and the serial number is in the range for the Canon IV Sb (or Canon IV S2 for export markets)

Canon IV Sb was the official factory name but for export markets, it was usually called IV S2, e.g. all the English language manuals I have seen refer to the IV S2. It is a Canon IV S with two additions, a slow speed shutter dial lock and X sync for using electronic flash. X sync was engaged by setting the slow speed dial to the new “X” position with the sync speed being around 1/15. Canon IV Sb with f/1.8 50mm Canon lens, note the film take-up spool with spring loaded pop-up grip introduced shortly after release of the Canon III:

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Well that is very interesting and a lot more than I originally thought, I will have to study for a time the best way to approach the project, in the mean time thank you very much indeed for this information as it is another path to information.. sourcing parts and fabrication is also another step to be considered a clean and getting the shutter to fire is the first step for me as thats the way I always do it. Thanks again ...

 

[trix4ever]

I certainly don't want to spoil your fun, but if you have a look on Ebay you'll find these in good condition and working for under US$200.
As someone who does up old motorbikes I certainly understand the pleasure you might get from this project.

 

[aw614]

Well I had a quick look and the serial number is in the range for the Canon IV Sb (or Canon IV S2 for export markets)

Canon IV Sb was the official factory name but for export markets, it was usually called IV S2, e.g. all the English language manuals I have seen refer to the IV S2. It is a Canon IV S with two additions, a slow speed shutter dial lock and X sync for using electronic flash. X sync was engaged by setting the slow speed dial to the new “X” position with the sync speed being around 1/15. Canon IV Sb with f/1.8 50mm Canon lens, note the film take-up spool with spring loaded pop-up grip introduced shortly after release of the Canon III:

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Newer than mine that I found on Facebook marketplace, which is an IVS/IVF with the 1/1000 shutter speed and no slow speed shutter dial lock. Mine came with a 50mm 1.5, but the haze is etched on the glass in one of the middle elements.

 

[frank-g]

It was part of a job lot from an auctioneers sale and i couldn't see it properly but couldn't resist as I do mostly Leica but have been interested in Canon too..

 

[xayraa33]

In the early 1950s Henri Cartier Bresson used a Bottomloader Canon camera for a while.

 

[frank-g]

Good Grief now that is an amazing piece of information.. The Man himself !, thank you so much another piece to research.

 

[frank-g]

I certainly don't want to spoil your fun, but if you have a look on Ebay you'll find these in good condition and working for under US$200.
As someone who does up old motorbikes I certainly understand the pleasure you might get from this project.

I agree Absolutely but it is the enjoyment and pleasure of doing it .👍