dazedgonebye
Veteran
rvaubel said:In the American experience, the citisens have the rights. And we, the citizens, grant to the government it's very existance, not the other way around.
Rex
If only everyone were aware of this simple truth.
rvaubel said:In the American experience, the citisens have the rights. And we, the citizens, grant to the government it's very existance, not the other way around.
Rex
In the American experience, the citizens have the rights. And we, the citizens, grant to the government it's very existence, not the other way around.
We will see how much talk it is come May 2007. The papers released 30 years ago suggest that England may have been prepared then to risk civil war to control Scotland, but frankly that was probably just talk itself. Today if we ask for it, our independence from England has to be granted. There may well be violence, but that will come from the Orange Order Unionist Scots, not the English. It should not be a major problem to put them down.That's why your discourse about Scottish independence is just talk. Nothing can ever come of it.
I'll have to talk to Mr. Bush about this situation. Perhaps he should get involved to protect the world's supply of marmalade! 🙂gareth said:We will see how much talk it is come May 2007. The papers released 30 years ago suggest that England may have been prepared then to risk civil war to control Scotland, but frankly that was probably just talk itself. Today if we ask for it, our independence from England has to be granted. There may well be violence, but that will come from the Orange Order Unionist Scots, not the English. It should not be a major problem to put them down.
A little late with that suggestion... eh, Frank?FrankS said:This would be a great discussion, somewhere else.
gareth said:I understand the theory behind the right to bear arms in the bill of rights. The USA currently has a criminal and corrupt government. But that government need not fear arms, in fact it encourages them. Part of what American governments do is to keep it's population in fear. Ultimately you control people, one way or another through fear.
Nikon Bob said:I get your point FrankS, but it just seems kind of funny that you and I are living in a former colony released from domination by another state without the use of arms against the other star. I guess it just depends how long you are willing to wait for your independance. Exceptions don't prove the rule though.
Bob
FrankS said:Where's that trigger, oh, I mean switch? 😉
Come on up anytime Rex, and we'll kill you with our hospitality. 🙂