Eliminating Gun Terminlogy From Photography

[dazedgonebye]

In the American experience, the citisens have the rights. And we, the citizens, grant to the government it's very existance, not the other way around.

Rex

If only everyone were aware of this simple truth.

 

[gareth]

I understand the theory behind the right to bear arms in the bill of rights. The USA currently has a criminal and corrupt government. But that government need not fear arms, in fact it encourages them. Part of what American governments do is to keep it's population in fear. Ultimately you control people, one way or another through fear.

In the American experience, the citizens have the rights. And we, the citizens, grant to the government it's very existence, not the other way around.

Do you seriously think that the American people are in control of their government? I don't think so. I don't believe for one minute that the American people are evil. However your government is, and currently you are almost powerless to change that, and the gun will only be a hindrance to bringing about change.

That's why your discourse about Scottish independence is just talk. Nothing can ever come of it.

We will see how much talk it is come May 2007. The papers released 30 years ago suggest that England may have been prepared then to risk civil war to control Scotland, but frankly that was probably just talk itself. Today if we ask for it, our independence from England has to be granted. There may well be violence, but that will come from the Orange Order Unionist Scots, not the English. It should not be a major problem to put them down.

History shows that the people do not need guns to face down unwanted authority. What is required is that all stand together. I accept, that it can be almost impossible under the control of mad dictators (and lets face it scarily many of these are place in other countries by western democracies), but often even then there can be a time and moment. Though some countries such as Chetneya and Iraq for example, you wonder if they will ever find peace again.

Indeed in Scotland, the trade union movement gained mass popularity during the period from 1915 to 1920, the climax of that period being a stand off between 100,000 plus ordinary scots, 12,00o troops with machine guns and tanks.

Anyway here's the list of nations from the British empire. I'm not convinced that all gained independence through arms and blood shed.


Aden (Yemen)
Ascension Island
Anguilla
Australia
Bahamas
Bahrain
Barbados
Basutoland (Lesotho)
Bechuanaland (Botswana)
Bermudarvaubel,
British Cameroon
British Guyana (Guyana)
British Honduras (Belize)
British Somaliland (Somalia)
British Solomon Islands
Brunei
Burma (Myanmar)
Canada
Cayman Islands
Ceylon (Sri Lanka)
Cook Islands
Cyprus
Falkland Islands and dependencies
Egypt
Fiji
Gambia
Gibraltar
Gilbert and Ellice Islands (Kiribati & Tuvalu)
Gold Coast (Ghana)
Grenada
Hong Kong
India (included Pakistan & Bangladesh)
Iraq
Ireland
Jamaica
Kenya
Kuwait
Malaya (West Malaysia)
Maldive Islands
Malta
Mauritius
Montserrat
Newfoundland (Canada)
New Hebrides (with France) Vanuatu
New Zealand
North Borneo (Sabah)
Nyasaland (Malawi)
Oman
Papua New Guinea
Palestine (Falestin/Israel)
Pitcairn Island
Qatar
Rhodesia (Zimbabwe and Zambia)
Sarawak (East Malaysia)
St Helena
St Kitts
St Lucia
St Vincent
Seychelles
South Africa
Swaziland
Tanganyika (Tanzania)
Tonga
Transjordan (Jordan)
Trinidad
Tristan Da Cunha
Trucial Oman (United Arab Emirates)
Turks and Caicos Islands
Uganda
Western Samoa
Zanzibar (Tanzania)

 

[FrankS]

This would be a great discussion, somewhere else.

 

[BrianShaw]

We will see how much talk it is come May 2007. The papers released 30 years ago suggest that England may have been prepared then to risk civil war to control Scotland, but frankly that was probably just talk itself. Today if we ask for it, our independence from England has to be granted. There may well be violence, but that will come from the Orange Order Unionist Scots, not the English. It should not be a major problem to put them down.

I'll have to talk to Mr. Bush about this situation. Perhaps he should get involved to protect the world's supply of marmalade!

 

[BrianShaw]

This would be a great discussion, somewhere else.

A little late with that suggestion... eh, Frank?

 

[dazedgonebye]

I understand the theory behind the right to bear arms in the bill of rights. The USA currently has a criminal and corrupt government. But that government need not fear arms, in fact it encourages them. Part of what American governments do is to keep it's population in fear. Ultimately you control people, one way or another through fear.

Now you see, that's where it becomes very difficult to have civil discourse.

 

[rvaubel]

I get your point FrankS, but it just seems kind of funny that you and I are living in a former colony released from domination by another state without the use of arms against the other star. I guess it just depends how long you are willing to wait for your independance. Exceptions don't prove the rule though.

Bob

What State is that? I can't think of any State that has achieved it's independence without some sort of a ruckas. There are not too many people that are "willing to wait for independence". Sounds a little too cerebral to me.

Wait a minute! Canada! Hey, you guys have to admit you are the luckiest people in the world when it comes to independence/violence. But, correct me if I'm wrong, weren't the British just a little tired of the American revolution at the point of your independence? I got to brush up on my Canadian Independence history.

BTW, Canada is my wife and I's favorite place to visit. But it would be a lot nicer if I could bring my .357 Magnum in my camera bag. Just Kidding

Rex

 

[FrankS]

Where's that trigger, oh, I mean switch?

Come on up anytime Rex, and we'll kill you with our hospitality.

 

[BrianShaw]

You're slaying me Frank... every time I hit the 'refresh', I laugh all over again!

 

[FrankS]

Just trying to keep things light/friendly, while the mods are having their afternoon naps.

 

[BrianShaw]

...but they've been napping all weekend. I suspect that if this is your weekend challenge you'll be busy until Tuesday... maybe Wednesday since Tuesday is a National Day of Mourning here in the US.

 

[rvaubel]

Where's that trigger, oh, I mean switch?

Come on up anytime Rex, and we'll kill you with our hospitality.

There you go again, Frank, with that violent lanquage!

I've spent a lot of time in British Columbia, particularly the Vancouver area. My wife and I have looked at houses in the Kearsdale area. It is a truly beautiful region, great for the photographer in me.

One of favorite street photography spots is the Vancouver downtown area. All big cities are good, but Vancouver in particular is a wonderful place for the street photographer with a rangefinder camera.

Rex