~130 for a CLA'd Canonet GIII QL17?

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There are a couple on Ebay at the moment at this price. is this the going rate now?

I dont mind spending a bit more to have the peace of mind knowing that I will be getting a fully functional camera from the get go, but this does seem a bit high?

what do you think?

cheers,
kelvin
 
No clue. I have a great repair man in Houston. My average price for 2 CLAs (Canon VI-T & Pentax 6x7) was $130. A lens CLA was $50. So, $65 for the camera and $65 for the CLA doesn't sound too far fetched.
 
My experience was buying a Canonet on eBay for $25 and then sending it to Essex Camera Repair for a complete CLA that cost $80. So if you include shipping and so on it comes close to $130.
 
Kelvin one of the things I'm kind of obsessive about is front lens elements. I generally look for used lenses that have worn a filter just about their whole life. To me that says something about the owner. When I got my Canonet it looked like crap but there was a UV filter almost locked on the front. The lens condition on these cameras is really important because when I posted some photos taken with mine over on PN there were posts about the comparative quality of the Canonet lenses. Apparently there is a fair amount of variance and the thought is that the QC was not particularly great on this model. Below is a pic from my gallery here taken with my Canonet. It's a great little street camera and I recommend it highly.


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Peter, thats a nice capture... it 'speaks'. I'll keep in mind what you said about the front element. i think its particularly dauting for me 1) being new to canonets and 2) given what can go wrong in used cameras. one can claim anything on ebay, which is worrying.

Harry, there's a black canonet on ebay right now, in UK too. few hours left.

thanks for the quick response guys, I'll have a look around for a bit more before pulling the trigger.

also came across this thread and im very interested to know how to get in touch with the person, or if anyone here has any direct experience?

kelvin
 
I don't think you can go wrong with that price, so long as it's guaranteed by the seller. When I bought my Canonet I only payed around $45 on Ebay, and I have yet to have it CLA'd. It takes some great pictures now, but sooner or later I'm gonna have to have it serviced as the light seals are pretty worn (but no light leaks, yet), and that means being without my Canonet for a while. At least in your case, if you buy it CLA'd you won't have to wait for that service to be performed.
 
Mark Hamma charges $80 to CLA/restore a GSN. I have several fixed lens rangefinders all but one was CLA'd when I purchased it or shortly thereafter. My take is:

1. There wonderful picture takers will never be made again
2. A good CLA will result in a camera that might not be cosmetically "as good as new" but will be, more importantly, functionally good as new.
3. The results from these beauties is right up there with the "name" interchangeable lens rangefinder system cameras, truth be told.
4. The still cost about half of your average plastic wonder digital point and shoot...
5. With care, a well-CLA'd old mechanical rangefinder with its comparatively simple electronics can last indefinitely, decades, a lifetime.
6. It takes hours to disassemble, reassemble, do minor repairs on a vintage camera and requires patience, skill, and expertise (and sometimes spare parts).

- Konica Auto S3, CLA'd upon purchase. $90 (a steal). Shot with this camera today. Fully functional, great finder, speeds/exposure all accurate. In "as new" form.

- Lynx 14e, serviced immediately after purchase. Everything functions ans is accurate.

- GSN, purchased fully serviced. No worries about the POD, nice bright rangefinder, works as new.

Only one camera - Yashica Electro CC, was fully functional upon purchase. The rangefinder is slightly off, the seals could stand replacement, the viewfinder is good but could use a cleaning. That's going to Mark Hamma next year. Every other camera I didn't CLA - jammed, broke, had functions that didn't work, was frustrating.

I'm a big believer in having you vintage camera CLA'd by a professional. It's totally worth it. I don't have as big a collection as many folks here, but all of my cameras are 100% fully functional and reliable and works as if they were right out of the box in 196X or 197X. I would take, literally, one fully functional CLA'd camera like your Canon, than 20 cameras with dirty finders that need adjuctment, sticky shutters whose speeds are way off, crumbling light seals, corroded wires and contacts ready to break any day... These are frustrating cameras to shoot, and you're on borrowed time even if you get an exposure out of them. A lot of folks get "GAS" - fall in love with these great old cameras (or the "idea" of shooting with them), and are disappointed when they get what they consider "crap" in the mail and complain about eBay or the seller. Getting a fully functional camera that's 30, 40, 50 years old is the exception rather than the rule. What you get is a "diamond in the rough". (These cameras are no longer made and never will be again. Be happy you have a vehicle - eBay, to get what you want at all. You're buying a "shell" of a camera that's long been out of production!) Get the best condition camera you think you're finding, and expect to have it CLA'd, and build the CLA cost into your budget. There's no such thing as a free lunch.

One last thing - for a $130, however, I would expect a warranty of at least six months. Short of that, I would get another one, send it out to have it CLA'd to a place that warranties their work.
 
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You have no idea what the seller considers a CLA and who did the work - far better to buy a less expensive one and send it the technician of your choice. If I were tempted to spend $130 on a Canonet I would buy it from a store where I could see it first - as others have observed a CLA'd camera with a scratched lens is still a camera with a scratched lens and a doubt the seller's CLA includes taking the lens apart of there is oil or haze. At that price you can afford to look before you leap.

BTW it is very easy to remove the top housing to clean the rangefinder/viewfinder which helps alot. Changing the seals is also a snap.

Michael
 
Some time ago, when I was in this wagon, I had an exchange with this seller asking about his CLA facilities, and get a discouraging answer. So perhaps you can ask the same and see.

Any way had I been living in the USA, I would buy a cheaper Canonet and send it to Greyhoundman, previous agreement with him.

Cheers,
Ruiben
 
Yes, it is a decent price. It's a little on the high-end but you will have something that works and will deliver for you. Unless you find a deal for this camera, they are worth around $60. So a well done CLA for $70 sounds right. I really enjoyed mine while I had it. Here are a few more questions that might help.

1. Does that price include the battery? The correct voltage batteries can be a little hard to come by. Sometimes these cameras are adjusted to accept modern voltage batteries. Wein air cell batteries are the perfect replacement for the old mercury batteries but they can be a little pricey.

2. Does the camera have new light-seals? Most of the vintage Canonets have deteriorated interior foam.

3. Is the glass all pristine with a UV filter or lens cap?
 
-kk- said:
There are a couple on Ebay at the moment at this price. is this the going rate now?

I dont mind spending a bit more to have the peace of mind knowing that I will be getting a fully functional camera from the get go, but this does seem a bit high?

what do you think?

cheers,
kelvin

You can pay close to that for the CLA alone. Go for it.
 
-kk- said:
There are a couple on Ebay at the moment at this price. is this the going rate now?

I dont mind spending a bit more to have the peace of mind knowing that I will be getting a fully functional camera from the get go, but this does seem a bit high?

what do you think?

cheers,
kelvin


Be carefu on ebay. What's the guarantee it truly has been CLA'd. I'd try the classifieds here first
 
I agree with the immediate above statement. You do not know from whom you are purchasing the camera. You should google the seller to see if they have brick and mortar stores or excessives good reputations from other members of this site who may have purchased from them. There are such sellers. Over the past month the major stores have listed the canonet from $125-$175.
 
ChrisPlatt said:
For the same money I would buy a clean fixer,
then pay a reputable repairer to overhaul it.
Only then can I be sure of what I'm getting...

Chris

I would agree 100% with that.

I paid $25 USd for mine. It's missing a strap lug and I guess could use a CLA but then again it works great. I think that's WAY too expensive.
 
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