1930's film carton?

[LeicaTom]

1941 Agfa Film Can......latest find on evilbay

1941 Agfa Film Can......latest find on evilbay

That's the latest find I have won on the evilbay......it's a 1940ish production tin of Agfa SS (Agfa USA) Dated Sept 1941 ~ it's the perfect prop for anyone who has a pre 42 IIIC or well any Leica for that matter. (maybe a RED CURTAIN IIIC?)

I have the later version of the Agfa SS can as well, from 1942 (which design I think stayed the same till the end of the war) ~ The 1941 dated can is the last of this style label.

I'm as always looking for 1944 to 1946 film items, mostly anything stamped LEICA or if it's AGFA (German Language) or 1944 thru 1946 Kodachrome.....

I should have my 1946 Kodachrome K-135 A box and can, here by Friday, (the seller found me a nice all yellow can) , so that's what I'm using with it, I also have have found a 1946 dated K-135 (daylight) Kodachrome box as well ~ stay tuned!

Enjoy!

Tom

 

[johannielscom]

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until november 1944. When photographing, filming or drawing anything outside of a closed room was forbidden.

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OT:

Gotta hand it to the occupier, they knew their classics, banning all outdoor drawing.

Here's a sketch made by Lord Baden-Powell during his years as a military scout in the Boer war:

That butterfly has the gun positions of the fortress encoded in dots on its wings. Larger dots on lines for larger guns, smaller dots at either side of the lines touching the fortress outlines for smaller guns, all others are decoys to fill up the butterfly.

Totally OT, but fun.

Sorry OP and Mods, won't happen again

 

[johannielscom]

Kodak Panatomic-X can

Kodak Panatomic-X can

French Kodak Panatomic-X can, stamped August 1949. Picked it up for next to nothing on an NL garage sales site.

There's a 100 ft. roll of Panatomic-X waiting in the fridge, expired 1985-ish

 

[LeicaTom]

Here's a shot of that 1946 Koadchrome K-135A box I bought two weeks ago (I paid $15) together with my US Army issued 1945 Leica IIIC K Grey and some Kodachrome slides.....

Enjoy!

Tom

 

[LeicaTom]

French Kodak Panatomic-X can, stamped August 1949. Picked it up for next to nothing on an NL garage sales site.

Very kool looking can

Tom

 

[LeicaTom]

Thanks Tom, I wonder if there's any experts with Photoshop who could do a clone of it for cutting out and making?

BTW, all my old books say 20 exposures for colour film. So another mystery.

As usual, the deeper we dig the more puzzles turn up.

Regards, David

David,

I THINK? That Kodak went from 18 to 20 exposure in 1946 film production (for 1947) while 1947 dated film seems to have 2 more exposures (I'm getting a 1947 dated box/can shortly to go with the other box of Koadchrome I already have) and I think this may have been due to war restrictions, after the war was over Kodachrome users got 2 more photos per box ~ I'll post photos when I have it....

Tom

PS: I've seen Kodachrome cartons back to 1943, and they were all 18 exposures, at least back that far in time....

 

[David Hughes]

Thanks Tom, that's a another useful date.

I had an idea late last night and rummaged around for old film and negative wallets. Here's one showing Kodak film but very ancient as the camera looks like an "Autographic" where you wrote on the film via a little window and a scribe.

And here's another little mystery. Can anyone identify the two very plain versions of the aluminium cans either side of the yellow Kodak can at the front?

I think that's enough mysteries for today.

Regards, David

 

[johannielscom]

David, I think I have the same plain cans, taped with red tape. At least one of them is open but I cannot recall what film is inside. I'll have a look when I get home!

 

[LeicaTom]

HU: Hey Film Collector Friends here's some auctions.......

HU: Hey Film Collector Friends here's some auctions.......

http://cgi.ebay.com/1941-Agfa-35-fi...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item45f249bcdc

That is a early 40's AGFA (American) Leica film box, I figure this one will sell pretty high?

And check out these funny looking (Italian?) early/mid 1930's film cans ~

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Leica-O...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c11bb57ae

I have no connections to the sellers whatsoever, just sharing this stuff, I'm sure someone here would like them ~ I'm still looking for 1943 to 46 Agfa (German Language) film products and 1943 to 1947 Kodachrome boxes.

Happy Bidding!

Tom

 

[Tom A]

If my memory serves me right (rarely does) I once got some of those plain cans in a box. They contained Ferrania film. There were labels on the top - but on several these labels had peeled off. I remember the red tape sealing them. I did keep them as they can take the IXMOO cassette. The lock spring on the iXMOO makes "regular" plastic cans not usable.

 

[JohnTF]

OK, finally edited a few shots of my "collection", there is a roll of Kodachrome A on the shelf, NASA used it to make slides to provide to educators and sent me a roll. Also, the Dupont paper is from the late 50's, still sealed, so is probably ok, ;-) The Isopan IFF is a roll I bought about the time I started out in photography, ;-) It has spent its entire life cool, and I have promised to let my friend Jan try and shoot it. ASA 10 I think.

 

[JohnTF]

Will try to find some more.

 

[JohnTF]

I think I just found my oldest can, which is paper, and Panatomic. Has a blank on top for the price, in Czech Crowns.

 

[Tom A]

The Du Pont Varigam DL will most likely be a bit fogged. I had one similar vintage and printed with it. Add a 10ml of 1% Benzotriazole to the paper developer and it kind of works. The "fog" is less - but it gives a nice "silvery" tone to the paper and slightly grey edges.

 

[JohnTF]

The Du Pont Varigam DL will most likely be a bit fogged. I had one similar vintage and printed with it. Add a 10ml of 1% Benzotriazole to the paper developer and it kind of works. The "fog" is less - but it gives a nice "silvery" tone to the paper and slightly grey edges.

Thanks Tom, when I saw chemicals in Prague, and could recognize the formulae, or the name of things I might need, I picked up and squirreled away some Benzotriazole, among some others.

Unfortunately, I have some terrific papers that have died a relatively early death, probably a thousand sheets of terrific Neobrom paper custom coated on a beautiful Karton base. I only had a couple of years to obtain what I could before they closed in Brno. They made amazing stuff, silver iodide contact paper, photo linens, lots of fiber papers.

I really think it would be possible to obtain and reopen them as a niche source for film and paper, but it would take organization skills far beyond me. Perhaps a RFF brand?

I had some Kodak paper that got lost in the garage for ten years, so frozen in the winter, cooked in the summer, but it was a modern RC, turns out I had some very contrasty negatives to print for someone a job for someone else, and it sort of worked out.

I have to put the IFF back in the fridge as I have it promised to Jan in Germany. Jan is my friend who sent the data/history of some of the companies from that region, quite the scholar and collector of information and formulae.

The Leica cans and cartridges I also found at FotoSkoda, I understand most of the local (Cleveland) ones were shipped to you, ;-).


Regards, John

 

[David Hughes]

Reading post like these last ones I sometimes wonder why I bother... But every now and again something marvellous happens and away we go - thanks Tom.

I wonder how they'll fare with APS and 110 formats when we are all dead and gone. I can think of some superb APS cameras by Nikon, Leica, Minolta, Kodak and Konica (to name just a few) that will probably never get used again.

Regards, David

 

[JohnTF]

Reading post like these last ones I sometimes wonder why I bother... But every now and again something marvellous happens and away we go - thanks Tom.

I wonder how they'll fare with APS and 110 formats when we are all dead and gone. I can think of some superb APS cameras by Nikon, Leica, Minolta, Kodak and Konica (to name just a few) that will probably never get used again.

Regards, David

I was recently quite surprised that Costco's large in store lab handled APS, I have a couple of Proneas, and have no idea what to do with them, loved the Elph, and have film, including B&W in the freezer, but each day I wonder if those reality TV folks will break down the door to offer order to my place.

And, of course, I have my Pentax 110 kit in the leather cases.

Regards, John

 

[David Hughes]

I was recently quite surprised that Costco's large in store lab handled APS, I have a couple of Proneas, and have no idea what to do with them, loved the Elph, and have film, including B&W in the freezer, but each day I wonder if those reality TV folks will break down the door to offer order to my place.

And, of course, I have my Pentax 110 kit in the leather cases.

Regards, John

I sold one of my Pronea lenses recently and was surprised how much interest it attracted. And the little Kodak and Konica are nice little cameras for slipping into the pocket but I like the Minolta S-1 most in that format.

This thread also reminded me that I bought some Ferrania colour film in 110 format a few weeks ago and had forgotten about it. I'll have to do something about that whilst I can still get it processed. And there's the 9 x 12 cut film* to worry about, etc, etc.

Regards, David

* One of our FSU friends has some 120 film holders in 9 x 12 backs...

 

[JohnTF]

I sold one of my Pronea lenses recently and was surprised how much interest it attracted. And the little Kodak and Konica are nice little cameras for slipping into the pocket but I like the Minolta S-1 most in that format.

This thread also reminded me that I bought some Ferrania colour film in 110 format a few weeks ago and had forgotten about it. I'll have to do something about that whilst I can still get it processed. And there's the 9 x 12 cut film* to worry about, etc, etc.

Regards, David

* One of our FSU friends has some 120 film holders in 9 x 12 backs...

I have 9x12 Linhof and Meopta holders to match the Ilford and Foma film to use in 4x5 cameras. I believe the Linhofs in Europe were often 9x12, unless you put a 4x5 inch holder in it? ;-)

The holders give you some films to choose from you may otherwise find difficult to buy in inch sizes.

I have 13x18cm holders for my 5x7 inch camera.

I have heard some cheap 110 single use cameras continue to be sold? I would not have bet that 110 would be around. I was also surprised that the local one hour techs were trained to process it, and even disk film?

I need a bigger freezer. ;-)

Now, where did you sell those Pronea lenses? Did you market them as Pronea lenses?

Regards, John

 

[David Hughes]

One of my old cameras was an odd size and I didn't realise it was 9 x 12 cm until I got hold of a Zeiss plate holder that would have fitted it but for the size! Odd logic but once I had the holder and could compare it with the camera I realised it was 9 x 12 and, of course, once I had 9x12 in the search machine, everything was sorted out. The camera's a Rio 3C, btw.

I found the 110 film by searching and searching and ignoring the experts. It will be used this weekend, with luck.

The Pronea lens was a duplicate as I'd had to buy a dud one on ebay to get some bits and pieces. So I sold it on ebay. They come up from time to time and some sell and some don't. Like most things except Leicas and Olympus 35SP's.

Regards, David