Balto
Established
Kind of a silly complaint, but I couldn't stand the focus ring on the newest 50 nokton, so that is a bit disappointing to see on the new 35. Though I'm sure optically it's great, but would it have been too hard to hypothetically put a focus tab on(disregarding the continued design style) which I do realize not everyone likes, but I am a huge fan of.
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
.Do you have any screenshots of 15mm?
What it means the edges were corrected? Has the formula remained the same?
No screen images from this lens. The sample I saw was not finalized yet. Still needed to be checked and centred
mirekti
Member
new formula, especially recomputed and corrected for digital cameras for better color rendition - aka M240, M9 etc
Any idea when one could expect some sample shots, and eventually shipping? I guess there will be many interested in this lens.
Very interested in the 40mm 2.8 for the A7r.
cpc
Established
Very interested in the 40mm 2.8 for the A7r.
Not particularly thrilled by the idea of focusing through the adapter's helicoid. The Ultron and the 15 Heliar, on the other hand, sound interesting for the A7 series.
Not particularly thrilled by the idea of focusing through the adapter's helicoid.
Why? Genuinely curious in case I'm missing something... seems like no big deal to me. It would be cool to see CV make a bunch of different lens heads that could be used on the adapter.
Kind of a silly complaint, but I couldn't stand the focus ring on the newest 50 nokton, so that is a bit disappointing to see on the new 35. Though I'm sure optically it's great, but would it have been too hard to hypothetically put a focus tab on(disregarding the continued design style) which I do realize not everyone likes, but I am a huge fan of.
to each their own,
but you are definitely in the minority on this one.
The 50/1.5 M mount has been hugely successful.
Stephen
meeker
Established
Sorry if this is obvious, but does this mean it will not work as a standard M-mount lens?40/2.8 Heliar 5 elements 3 groups, lens head to be used with VM NEX Close up adapter. SUPER COMPACT, classic retro nickel construction, probably the smallest normal available for NEX cameras. 132 gram For ALL Nex cameras, full frame or APS-C http://voigtlaender.de/40-mm-f-2,8-heliar.html
sleepyhead
Well-known
Sorry if this is obvious, but does this mean it will not work as a standard M-mount lens?
I guess it has no coupling to the Leica rangefinder mechanism, so focusing would need to be by live view only.
Sorry if this is obvious, but does this mean it will not work as a standard M-mount lens?
No, at the moment it fits only the Leica M to NEX close up adapter,
so it will only focus on NEX cameras.
Stephen
meeker
Established
OK, thanks. So I guess the 35 mm / F 2,5 Color Skopar Pancake II is about as small as you can get from Voigtlander in a ~normal focal length for now.
alan davus
Well-known
I'm definitely putting my hand up for the new 35 Ultron. Had the old LTM version but sold it when I bought a Hex 35/2 UC a few years ago. Always regretted it because my copy was stunning.
uhoh7
Veteran
They may also be thinking "e", with the 35/1.7, since there are few truly great 35s for the A7.
sanmich
Veteran
Voigtlander has just introduced four new lenses at Photokina 2014l.
35/1.7 Leica M Mount Aspheric, new sharper computation of the 35/1.7 with great bokeh and in the classic retro chrome brass or black lens barrels like the 50/1.5 Aspheric, 9 elements 7 groups 297 gram chr, 226 gram black. This lens was asked for by many customers who wanted a fast sharp 35mm, but smaller than the super fast 35/1.2. http://voigtlaender.com/35-mm-f-1,7-ultron.html
15/4.5 III Leica M Aspheric New improved optical design for digital M cameras, gives great results on film too! 13 elements 10 groups 586 grams, giving higher performance and improved color. http://voigtlaender.de/15-mm--f-4,...dell-2014.html
40/2.8 Heliar 5 elements 3 groups, lens head to be used with VM NEX Close up adapter. SUPER COMPACT, classic retro nickel construction, probably the smallest normal available for NEX cameras. 132 gram For ALL Nex cameras, full frame or APS-C http://voigtlaender.de/40-mm-f-2,8-heliar.html
10.5/.95 Nokton M43 lens 13 elements, 10 groups 586 gram - this is the 4th and widest of Voigtlander's fast .95 M43 lenses. Equivalent of 21mm on full frame 35.
For pics of all except the 15mm, go to http://voigtlaender.com/index.html and then click the NEW VM and MFT lenses link on the right bottom of the Photokina pic.
All of these were needed and will occupy special places in the Voigtlander lens lineup. I think all of these will be very popular.
The 40/2.8 will be the first of these 4 to be on dealer's shelves.
Stephen
The new generation of M lenses from VC is really impressive.
There is one thing that is, for me a major drawback: the min focus distance smaller than 0.7m
for leica M users, it really is a problem, at short distances, to know if you are in focus or the lens is disconnected from the camera.
IMHO Cosina should have allowed for a signal, maybe a bump, to mark the 0.7m distance, or to allow a small mechanism t lock the MFD at 0.7.
Or even to propose the lens in two versions: one for RF users with a 0.7m MFD, the other for live view users.
Just my cheap 2 cents though
cpc
Established
Why? Genuinely curious in case I'm missing something... seems like no big deal to me. It would be cool to see CV make a bunch of different lens heads that could be used on the adapter.
Ergonomics and no distance scale. While the VM-E close focus adapter is the smoothest of all the close focus M-E adapters I've tried, it is still not as good as a proper focus ring. Also, I use distance scales a lot.
The 15mm being optimized for digital cameras makes me wonder if this includes thicker sensor glass (as on Sony A7/r/s cameras) and not just Leicas. Same for the Ultron. The Zeiss Loxia Biogon seems to be quite ugly on the bokeh front (no surprise), so the Ultron is a curious proposition.
struene
Established
Hallo,
great to see Cosina continuosly develop new lenses for the M-Mount. But the need for digital compatibility (for example the "corner issues" with classic wideangles and the digital "sharpness religion" /even "extremism") comes at the cost of larges lenssizes. Thats putting the sense of Rangefindershooting obsolete for me, cause in the end you have slr-sized lenses on a rangefindercamera. Therefor the Viewfinderblockage is just one issue. The whole apperance leaves the realm of the small understated cameras, as I love them.
I hope the manufacturers will still stay with us classic (film-) rangefindershooters and continue to offer lenses like the 21/4.5 Biogon, The Voigtländer Skopars and the other small to mid-sized lenses, especially the symmetric wideangles that are so great to shoot on film.
The New 35/1.4zm, the CV35/1.7 rather huge, the new 15/4.5III surely will be (over 500g!! the first was 116g the second 156g!!).
schöne Grüße,
Johann
great to see Cosina continuosly develop new lenses for the M-Mount. But the need for digital compatibility (for example the "corner issues" with classic wideangles and the digital "sharpness religion" /even "extremism") comes at the cost of larges lenssizes. Thats putting the sense of Rangefindershooting obsolete for me, cause in the end you have slr-sized lenses on a rangefindercamera. Therefor the Viewfinderblockage is just one issue. The whole apperance leaves the realm of the small understated cameras, as I love them.
I hope the manufacturers will still stay with us classic (film-) rangefindershooters and continue to offer lenses like the 21/4.5 Biogon, The Voigtländer Skopars and the other small to mid-sized lenses, especially the symmetric wideangles that are so great to shoot on film.
The New 35/1.4zm, the CV35/1.7 rather huge, the new 15/4.5III surely will be (over 500g!! the first was 116g the second 156g!!).
schöne Grüße,
Johann
jmilkins
Digited User
good on you CV and Mr K. Great to see.
cpc
Established
Hallo,
great to see Cosina continuosly develop new lenses for the M-Mount. But the need for digital compatibility (for example the "corner issues" with classic wideangles and the digital "sharpness religion" /even "extremism") comes at the cost of larges lenssizes. Thats putting the sense of Rangefindershooting obsolete for me, cause in the end you have slr-sized lenses on a rangefindercamera. Therefor the Viewfinderblockage is just one issue. The whole apperance leaves the realm of the small understated cameras, as I love them.
I hope the manufacturers will still stay with us classic (film-) rangefindershooters and continue to offer lenses like the 21/4.5 Biogon, The Voigtländer Skopars and the other small to mid-sized lenses, especially the symmetric wideangles that are so great to shoot on film.
The New 35/1.4zm, the CV35/1.7 rather huge, the new 15/4.5III surely will be (over 500g!! the first was 116g the second 156g!!).
schöne Grüße,
Johann
The question is, do we really need better lenses for film? What is already available is plenty good and small enough. And chances for new finer grained films are slim.
Hence, optimization effort geared towards digital.
struene
Established
Yes you are right. Still a compact and affordable 35/2.0 lens (that is less "classic..." than the nokton) remains a whish, that could have been forefilled. But first of all I meant, that I hope they don´t discontinue those compact "analog" designs, for example: starting with the 15/4.5 II...
schöne Grüße,
Johann
schöne Grüße,
Johann
mirekti
Member
Is there anyone at PK willing to take a shot or two with and of CV15?
Some comments about the size and weight are welcome too.
Some comments about the size and weight are welcome too.
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