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Just to clarify: the DR and the Rigid have exactly the same optical cell.
50mm Summicron Dual Range ?'s
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k__43
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JOCO34
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All things being equal you may be right. But this particular DR lens has cosmetic and some glass issues. Foe instance; No Goggles, been used by me for 40 years or so and looks it (worn chrome showing brass etc) and more importantly has a chip or small defect half way near the middle of the lens somewhere in the lens group. It can easily be seen but does not seem to effect the image that I can tell. Also no Leica lens caps or box etc. So who wants to trade their pristine 50mm rigid lens straight accross? Any offers?
k__43
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pepeguitarra
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know, I know, we all find excuses to keep what we love!! 😉
BTW, here is my Summicron 50/2 Rigid with my NEW M3 (it is perfectly CLAd, only needs a nice leatherette-sp?) in the future, in excellent shape, which I decided to keep, I do not really need the close up of the DR. 😀
Leica M3 by Palenquero Photography, on Flickr
Next step, change the leatherette
a.noctilux
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Pepe, if your M3 has only small bits of vulcanite falling apart, you could repair it, instead of replacing the whole leatherette.
Real vulcanite is so comfortable in use that no leatherette could compare.
Real vulcanite is so comfortable in use that no leatherette could compare.
JOCO34
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Pepe thats a simply gorgous set up!! Looks brand new. My stuff looks like a War correspondants cast offs!
A quick and really wonderful method to repair small areas missing vulcanite is to use liquid vinyl. It comes in a bottle and I use toothpicks or q tips with the heads cut off. Work slowly and only drop a small amount at a time. It fills in and can be removed later if you do a recover job.
A quick and really wonderful method to repair small areas missing vulcanite is to use liquid vinyl. It comes in a bottle and I use toothpicks or q tips with the heads cut off. Work slowly and only drop a small amount at a time. It fills in and can be removed later if you do a recover job.
pepeguitarra
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Thanks for the tip. I got this M3 from Tamarkin (what a guy!!) and it was fully CLAd, 14-day return and 6-month warranty. You cannot go wrong. I rather pay a bit more to him, than play roulette buying from the big auction site. Liquid vinyl, where do I get it?
PS: People who advised me to get the meter: You were right. I tried without it first, and I was way off. The meter is really nice.
JOCO34
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Liquid vinyl is used for electrical insulation, covering tool handles etc. Most likely spots to find it are large box hardware stores like Sears, Home Depot, Lowes or Ace Hardware. Maybe Radio Shack. Be sure to use it sparingly with just a small applicator do not use the brush supplied with the bottle or your camera will look like it was dragged out of the La Brea Tar Pit!
teddy
Jose Morales
Nice M3 and the Rigid Summicron. I have bought from Tamarkin and will buy again too. Very pleasant to deal with and the gear is all well described. I'm from Australia and have bought my Summicron 35/2 Type 1, a DR Summicron (I have 2) and some Leica R gear as well as Summarons from Tamarkin.
peterm1
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This stuff works well and I have used it as well for the same purpose. Another trick that works very well too if liquid vinyl (sometimes marketed as liquid electrical tape) is unavailable is to go to the hardware store and find a one liter can of bitumen. I think its sometimes called roofing bitumen but is used for various purposes. The thick trowel-applied version is the one you need not the thin paintable variety. Apply it in the same way as described for liquid vinyl and when it sets, if carefully done you will not see the repair. After all I think its basically what is used in vulcanite. Be aware it does take a few days to firm up though. Just also be sure if any areas of vulcanite are falling off the lens / camera but are still attached it pays to flood the area under the vulcanite where its lifted with a little glue (super glue works fine). This will prevent more falling off.
Richard G
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Thank you Raid. So I did just as you suggest:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2604747#post2604747
raid
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Thanks a lot!
JOCO34
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Last update I promise on my mod project for the 50mm DR. Just got it back from DAG (CLA and rear helical mod for my M240) and I am extremely happy with the result. It's like a new lens, except for the chip on the front element. It works great on the M240 and focus is dead on with the M's rangefinder. The extra weight adds I think to the stability of the camera at low shutter speeds. I tried several low exposures at 1/15 and 1/8 at f2 and was surprized with the results. I don't do any close up photography anyway so the loss of the close range focus was not an issue for me and to now have this great lens working for me is great. Thanks for all of the comments.
